Canadian Heritage Committee on March 7th, 2017

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

Thank you very much.

Mr. Chair, did we not have an amendment, proposed by Ms. Dabrusin, to take out proposed subsections 3(2) and 3(3)?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

It was lines 11 to 16.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

Just for clarity, if I could, Ms. Dabrusin, what we just voted on was clause 1, and that was the part with the proposed new subsection 3(1) in it.

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

Yes.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

Proposed subsections 3(2) and 3(3) were taken out, lines 11 to 16. Now we're voting on clause 2, which is the coming into force.

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

That's right.

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

I may want to clarify that with the government side as well, seeing as how they didn't want it to come into force. I think that has changed, but anyway, clause 2 is the coming into force part of the bill.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Yes.

[Darrell Samson, Liberal, Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS]

No.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

We do not need a Governor in Council order.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

I will call clause 2. All those in favour of clause 2, please indicate.

[John Brassard, Conservative, Barrie—Innisfil, ON]

On division.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

All those in favour?

All those opposed?

[John Brassard, Conservative, Barrie—Innisfil, ON]

We're opposed.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

Let's see the hands, then. All those opposed, please indicate.

(Clause 2 negatived)

Shall the title carry?

Go ahead, Mr. Nantel.

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

Are we sure of what we're doing now? Clause 2 did not carry. Is that what you just said?

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

That's what we determined.

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

Is this what you guys wanted?

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

Go ahead, Ms. Dabrusin.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

What I understand is we don't need an order of Governor in Council for this to come into effect. It's extra steps.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

Mr. Nantel, you had a question?

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here who is confused.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Larry Maguire]

Okay. I'll ask our legislative clerk to clarify.

[Philippe Méla]

Mr. Nantel, taking out clause 2 of the bill simply removes the idea that the bill would come into force by the application of an order. As a result, the bill will come into force upon royal assent. That is the difference.

[Pierre Nantel, NDP, Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC]

Okay. Thank you.