Canadian Heritage Committee on May 23rd, 2024

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

I have a point of order, Madam Chair. I want to bring some clarity to that point.

The member opposite has the exact same resources as any other member of this House who's not part of the executive of government, so that's a bit misleading. We don't have access to government officials like the executive does—

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

He can put himself on the list. It's not a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

It's not a point of order, Mr. Coteau. I'm sorry.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

It won't take long. You can wait until I'm done, Michael.

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

It's not a point of order, but you can't just say things in the committee that are not true.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

It's not a point of order, Michael. Michael, it's not a point of order.

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair Lawrence.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Now, after Mr. Lawrence, is there anybody else?

I'm going to ask....

You haven't finished. I'm sorry.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

That's no problem, Madam Chair.

The substance of my point was that if there are other subamendments, I would appreciate it if the government members gave them to us now. They don't have to wait until the amendment is raised—unless the clerk tells me I'm incorrect, and then I'll stand down.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

People speak to whatever is on the table at the moment. Right now, this amendment and subamendment apply to the clause we're dealing with. I'm sorry, Mr. Lawrence.

I'm going to ask the question. I'm sorry.

Before you vote on this, I want you to know that if G-2 is adopted, BQ-4, CPC—

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Point of order, Madam Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I'm sorry?

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

We're debating the subamendment, thank you for pointing that out, but—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes. Did you want to speak to that?

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

No, but we could vote on the subamendment and then discuss the repercussions.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We're on the subamendment. Amended or not, I just wanted to let you know about that.

Let's call the question on the subamendment of Mr. Serré.

(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

The subamendment of Mr. Serré is carried.

Now I am going to discussion on Mr. Noormohamed's amendment.

I have Mr. Lawrence first, then Ms. Thomas and then Mr. Champoux.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

I'll give my time to Ms. Thomas.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes, we are just discussing it.

I want you to know that, after we have discussed G-2, if it is carried, then BQ-4, CPC-6 and NDP-2 cannot be moved due to a line conflict, so just be informed.

Go ahead, Ms. Thomas.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

I'm sorry, I do need clarification on that point.

Amendment G-2 deals with lines 19 to 21. CPC-6 deals with lines 26 to 28, so I just need to understand why that would not be movable if G-2 passes.

[Philippe Méla]

Thank you, Madam Chair.

G-2, indeed, as you pointed out, deals with lines 19 to 21 on page 2, and that's in paragraph (a); however, paragraph (b) also deals with line 28, and that's where the conflict is.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Okay, thank you. I appreciate that clarification.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We will now go to Monsieur Champoux.

[Martin Champoux, Bloc, Drummond, QC]

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I would like to propose a subamendment to amendment G-2, in the event that amendment G-2 is adopted and we have to withdraw amendment BQ-4. This concerns the annual report.

We move that Amendment G-2 be subamended by replacing the words “an overview” with the words “a list” and by adding, after the words “the previous year,” the words “if those cases have been made public.”

I would like to point out that we sent the clerk the subamendment in both official languages. The change only pertains to the last portion of amendment G-2. So, the last portion of section 3 of Bill C-316, including the subamendment, would read as follows:…of the direction, goals and financial performance of the program, as well as a list of the cases that received funding in the previous year, if those cases have been made public.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Is there discussion on the subamendment?

There is a comment from Mr. Méla.