Evidence of meeting #121 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Geneviève Desjardins
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Blair McMurren  Director General, Strategic Policy and International Affairs, Department of Canadian Heritage
Thomas Owen Ripley  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Isabelle Mondou  Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Joëlle Montminy  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Then would “anti-racism strategy” be the last words?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

That's right.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Can we just hold for one second? Can I read it over again before we go forward, Mr. Chair, just for 30 seconds?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Yes.

I have other people who wish to speak to this.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Okay, then I'll yield.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Mr. Champoux, go ahead.

5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Mr. Chair, I have nothing against my colleague Ms. Thomas's proposed amendment. In fact, the first part of the motion is complete, insofar as we wish to receive a visit from the minister. Everything that follows, i.e., the text that Ms. Thomas proposes to strike out, can very well be part of the discussions we'll hold during the minister's visit.

So I would be inclined to support this amendment, which seems to me quite reasonable if we want to get things done quickly. I think I'll support the amendment and the motion as amended.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Okay.

Go ahead, Michael.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Did you say my name, Mr. Chair?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Yes, I did. I'm sorry. You said you needed 30 seconds to read it over. Are you good? If not, I'm going to Mr.—

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

You gave me about five minutes there. You must think it takes me a long time to read this.

I'm only kidding. I'm good, Mr. Chair.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

You're good? Okay.

Mr. Noormohamed, go ahead.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I apologize. I stepped out of the room for 30 seconds.

We have the amendment, and we're waiting on the subamendment to be circulated. Am I correct?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Not really, no.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

We're not.

Has the amendment been circulated?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

No. We're just cutting it off.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Can we just take a second? Can we suspend so that we can have a chance to look at it and talk about it?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Okay. We're just eliminating the last two and a half lines. That's all that we were doing, but we can suspend for a minute.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Is there any discussion on the amendment, Mr. Noormohamed?

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Thank you, Chair.

In principle, we would support the amendment. I think the challenge for us is obviously the date. We would be prepared to support the amendment proposed by Ms. Thomas without the date, noting that getting the minister here on that date may not actually work.

The other thing I would mention is that I think the word “strategy” appears twice. I'm assuming that's probably a typo.

If there's a willingness to change the date, we're happy to propose a subamendment to alter the date, but we have no issue with the content of the amendment.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

If you're changing it to June 19, it would be a different amendment and not a subamendment.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

The other thing I would suggest, just reflecting on it, is, again, there's no disagreement with the spirit of the motion or the amendment. We've always had a practice of having the minister for an hour and officials for an hour. I would offer that we continue that practice, if Ms. Ashton and others are open to it. I think this is something that we all kind of seem to want to be able to get to, so maybe we can find a way to do it.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Go ahead, Mr. Lawrence.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

I don't disagree with anything that Mr. Noormohamed had to say. The only thing I would say procedurally is to vote on this amendment and get this done. Then you can move a second amendment on the date and the hours, and we'll see how that goes.

Otherwise, we could discuss it all together. It's whatever you want to do.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Mr. Champoux, are you good?

I'm sorry, Ms. Ashton; go ahead.