Evidence of meeting #36 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Thomas Owen Ripley  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Aimée Belmore

11:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Shall clause 22 as amended carry?

(Clause 22 as amended agreed to on division)

(On clause 23)

If BQ-26 is adopted, NDP-23 becomes moot since they are identical, and PV-8 cannot be moved due to line conflict. If BQ-26 is defeated, so is NDP-23, as they are identical.

Shall BQ-26 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

That means that NDP-23 similarly does not carry.

Shall PV-8 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 23 agreed to on division)

(Clauses 24 to 27 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 28)

11:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

CPC-27.1 has been removed, so we will not be dealing with it.

Shall CPC-28 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 28 as amended agreed to on division)

(Clause 29 agreed to on division)

(On clause 30)

11:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

If CPC-29 is adopted, NDP-24 becomes moot since they are identical. If CPC-29 is defeated, so is NDP-24.

Shall CPC-29 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 30 as amended agreed to on division)

(Clause 31 agreed to on division)

Now, we have a new clause, 31.1, with G-5.

Shall G-5 carry?

(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Midnight

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Therefore, shall clause 32 carry as amended? I don't have clause 31.1 being carried.

Midnight

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Madam Chair, when amendment G-5 was adopted, it created by itself the new clause 31.1.

Midnight

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Then shall clause 31.1 as amended carry?

Midnight

An hon. member

On division.

Midnight

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

It is carried on division unless there is anyone contesting it.

I will move on.

(Clauses 32 to 36 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 37)

Midnight

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

On clause 37, we have NDP-24.1.

I shall read you the legislative clerk's note on this. It says that Bill C-11 amends mainly the Broadcasting Act in various ways. This amendment seeks to amend the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission Act by requiring the commission to collect statistical data to be included in the report on its activities in accordance with subsection 13(2) of the act, based on the implementation of section 3 of the Broadcasting Act.

As House of Commons Procedure and Practice, third edition, states on page 770:

An amendment to a bill that was referred to a committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.

In our opinion, the amendment, by requiring the collection of statistical data not envisioned in the bill, goes beyond the scope of the bill. Therefore, I rule the amendment inadmissible. This ruling applies also to CPC-29.1, because it is identical to NDP-24.1.

Shall I move on further now?

Shall NDP-24.1 carry?

Midnight

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

Madam Chair, you just ruled it—

Midnight

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I did not hear from anybody at all. I don't know if people are agreeing with me or not.

Midnight

Legislative Clerk

Philippe Méla

But you ruled—

Midnight

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I can't see the floor.

Midnight

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair. You ruled NDP-24.1 out of order, so I don't think we would be voting on it.

12:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I did not know if anyone was challenging that ruling, Mr. Housefather, because I didn't hear from anyone. Not being able to see the floor, I am hoping that somebody could feed back to me what is going on.

If everyone is agreed that NDP-24.1 is inadmissible, then I shall not ask for a vote on it, and I will not ask for the vote on CPC-29.1.

Now, shall clause 37 carry?

(Clause 37 agreed to on division)

(Clauses 38 agreed to on division)

12:05 a.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

On a point of order, Madam Chair, I think there's agreement that we can group everything until clause 52 and pass them on division.

12:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

All right. If there's full agreement from everybody—

12:05 a.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

There is not. I object.

12:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

All right. We have an objection.

We will vote individually.

(Clauses 39 to 52 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 53)

12:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

On clause 53, we have CPC-29.2.

Shall CPC-29.2 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 53 agreed to on division)

(On clause 54)

12:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

We're on clause 54, amendment CPC-30.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 54 agreed to on division)

12:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Shall the short title carry?

(Short title agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

Shall the title carry?

12:10 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

12:10 a.m.

An hon. member

On division.

12:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Shall the bill as amended carry?