Yes, it was amended.
Evidence of meeting #36 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #36 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shall.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:40 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Thank you very much.
I shall repeat the question. Shall clause 4 carry as amended?
(Clause 4 as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
9:40 p.m.
Conservative
Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB
I have a point of order, Madam Chair.
My apologies for calling yet another point of order, but I think it goes to the fact that this is like rapid fire.
We are moving faster than we even have the ability to have corrections at this point. I just want to really ensure we are taking our time. This is serious legislation. It has been 31 years since this legislation was updated. We are moving through these amendments at the speed of light. I think it is absolutely incumbent upon us to be doing what we can to ensure things are accurate. If we aren't even sure what we're voting on is accurate, this raises some serious questions.
I just want to ensure we're making sure that everything is done. I'm a little bit nervous at this point.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
9:40 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The minutes of whatever we are doing will be published, so everyone can be clear on what we did here.
Now I shall move to—
9:40 p.m.
Conservative
Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS
I have a point of order, Madam Chair.
The people who are watching on ParlVu may not have been watching earlier when the ruling was made by the chair, with the advice of the legislative clerk, on the reading of the amendments by the mover.
I wonder if you could repeat that ruling for the people who are watching.
9:40 p.m.
Liberal
Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON
On that point of order, Madam Chair, it's not a point of order.
The ruling has been made. There have been a lot of rulings over the last day. We don't need to repeat them all just because someone may be tuning in at the moment.
9:40 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I would like to read to you what the orders from the House are:
...if the committee has not completed its clause-by-clause consideration of the bill by 9:00 p.m. on June 14, 2022, all remaining amendments submitted to the committee shall be deemed moved, and the Chair shall put the question, forthwith and successively without further debate, on all remaining clauses and amendments submitted to the committee, as well as each and every question necessary to dispose of the clause-by-clause consideration of the bill....
These are orders from the House. We are following them.
I'm going to ask a question because I note that in Mr. Méla's notes to the chair, underneath “Shall clause 4 carry?”, there is a note that says “New Clause 4.1”.
Mr. Méla, could you please explain what that means?
9:45 p.m.
Legislative Clerk
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Indeed, if amendment NDP-12 is adopted, it would create in itself the new clause 4.1.
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Thanks for explaining that, Mr. Méla.
I shall then move to NDP-12.
It's written here, but I don't see what exactly NDP-12 is.
I shall have to check NDP-12 and make sure that I'm on the right page as well.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB
I have a point of order, Madam Chair.
I believe that there is a little bit of confusion as we speak on this, perhaps. It does sound like there are some changes based on an earlier vote this morning to this particular thing that we are voting on. It is not part of the initial package that was sent to us. Perhaps the clerk can send us the updated pieces so that we can ensure that, as we're voting, we're voting on the appropriate amendments.
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Thank you.
I'll ask Mr. Méla if he has sent all of the updated information to the full committee.
June 14th, 2022 / 9:45 p.m.
Legislative Clerk
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Yes, I think so. There were just—
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
What we are speaking about is on page 88, for everyone's information, if they choose to find it in their package. It was in the most recent package sent by the clerk.
Now I shall go back—we shall not have a debate on this—to NDP-12.
Shall NDP-12 carry?
(Amendment negatived: nays 10; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(On clause 5)
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Now we're going to move to CPC-16 next. That was dealt with when LIB-1 was adopted.
We're going to NDP-15.1.
Shall NDP-15.1 carry?
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The last thing we did was to vote on NDP-12. I am following your clause-by-clause notes, and the next thing here is CPC-16, but it was already dealt with when LIB-1 was adopted, so the next I have is NDP-15.1.
Please correct me if I have the wrong information.
9:50 p.m.
Legislative Clerk
Let me just clarify something.
LIB-6 was adopted as a consequence to the adoption of LIB-1.
9:50 p.m.
Legislative Clerk
This one has been dealt with already.
We should be at NDP-13.
9:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I do not have an NDP-13, Mr. Méla.
My next NDP is NDP-15.1, but I shall search for NDP-13.
9:50 p.m.
Liberal
Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON
On a point of order, Madam Chair, maybe this is a good time for a health break for five minutes.
