Canadian Heritage Committee on June 14th, 2022

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes.

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

For clarity's sake, CPC-16 was not dealt with on LIB-1. It was withdrawn. I don't want anyone thinking that it was dealt with on LIB-1. It has nothing to do with that. It was withdrawn by the Conservative Party.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you.

CPC-16 was already dealt with—I'm told from the Chair's notes—by LIB-1, which was adopted. Therefore—

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

No, Madam Chair. I have a point of order again. I'm sorry.

LIB-1 has nothing to do with CPC-16. CPC-16 was withdrawn by the Conservative Party members. It was not related to LIB-1.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you. I do not have a note on that withdrawal. What I have is if LIB-1 was adopted.

Now I shall move on to NDP-15.1 Shall it carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

I'm sorry. Was that six nays and one yea?

[The Clerk, Ms. Aimée Belmore]

Yes. It was six nays and one yea.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you. There was abstinence. I couldn't quite hear from the floor what people were saying.

We're on to G-4. Again, I am told here with the clerk's notes that it was already dealt with when LIB-1 was adopted. Is somebody challenging that?

All right. We shall move on.

Shall clause 6 carry as amended?

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

On division.

[An hon. member]

Is this G-4?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

On clause 6, is everyone in agreement with “on division”?

[Kevin Waugh, Conservative, Saskatoon—Grasswood, SK]

No, we have G-4 yet, Madam Chair. There's amendment G-4.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I just said that G-4—which I have in the clerk's notes—was already dealt with if LIB-1 was adopted. LIB-1 was adopted.

[Philippe Méla]

Madam Chair, can I check my notes again?

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Yes, please.

[Philippe Méla]

It appears that there may be a mistake there.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Those are the notes I'm reading.

[Anthony Housefather, Liberal, Mount Royal, QC]

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

To speed things up, if you don't mind.... Mr. Méla, this is correct, because we're using “official language” minorities—the same as we did in LIB-1—and substituting it for “English” and “French” minority communities. It's the same essence. It's the same reason you ruled the others were consequential. This would also be consequential, because all it's doing is changing the term.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you, Mr. Housefather, for that clarification.

Mr. Méla will give me his ruling.

[Philippe Méla]

Yes, Madam Chair.

That's right, Mr. Housefather. However, I don't think we decided at the time that it would be directly consequential, so we would be better off to vote on it now to make sure.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

All right, thank you.

I shall be pleased—

[Laila Goodridge, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB]

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

G-4 has the second part of the amendment in French in both the English and the French versions, so I believe that this is not accurate. I would ask that we have this translated.

I apologize for not catching this earlier. We have a very large number of amendments that we're going through and we're going through them so quickly. I can understand where some errors can be made, but I think that it's important to make sure that we have this in both official languages before we vote on it.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

I have a point of order. It's not an error. It's only amending the French.

[Laila Goodridge, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB]

It is an error.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

It isn't an error.

[An hon. member]

It's only in the French.