Evidence of meeting #94 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
I'm not saying that's.... I'm just curious process-wise if that's what we should be doing. I don't know.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh
Well, here's the adjourned or suspended; we were adjourned, so we started a new list. That would be my interpretation.
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Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
Fine. I was just curious. I was asking a process question, that's all.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for reading out the motion.
I do not have a record of your subamendment saying, “Meta and Google and other...platforms”.
Meta and Google receive over $1 billion, just those two companies. I don't recall “and other...platforms”. That exponentially increases the massive government indirect subsidies that go to these companies. I don't have a record of those three words appearing. That Meta and Google receive over $1 billion in indirect subsidies is absolutely appropriate, and that was in my amendment.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh
The clerk is going to explain the difference to you. We just had your amendment and my subamendment.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh
Mrs. Thomas, the floor is yours.
We're speaking to the subamendment, if you don't mind my saying, from Tuesday.
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
The amendment, which has now been amended and then subamended, that is before this committee has to do with the CBC. Mr. Julian then added “Meta and Google”.
The intent of the subamendment being discussed would be that Ms. Tait, the head of the CBC, would be brought forward to this committee, and she would be given opportunity to answer for decisions she has made.
Further to that, there would be a desire to hear from Mr. Achi, who is responsible for journalistic standards and who instructed those at the CBC not to use the word “terrorist” when referring to Hamas, which is a terrorist organization.
Further to that, there is also a desire to hear from Mr. Nagler, who is also a part of the leadership team at the CBC. He serves as the ombudsman.
Of course, these three combined would hopefully be able to offer this committee some answers as to why they're making the decisions they are making.
What I find alarming is that the CBC is spreading dangerous disinformation, promoted by Hamas, and they put it out there as if it's fact. Just a week ago, they said that the Gaza hospital was bombed by Israel and that hundreds were dead. In fact, we now have intelligence from Canada's national defence and intelligence command, and we also have verification from the United States, France and the United Kingdom, saying that is false. Yet, the CBC has not offered an apology for their spreading of dangerous disinformation, dangerous disinformation that actually feeds into anti-Semitic beliefs and behaviour in this country.
When taxpayers are putting $1.4 billion toward a machine that is spreading disinformation, that's wrong.
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Liberal
Lisa Hepfner Liberal Hamilton Mountain, ON
I'm not sure that this is accurate, based on the CBC coverage that I've seen. I'm wondering if the member opposite can provide the articles that she's concerned about.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
What we see at this committee is the cover-up coalition, which is a combination of the NDP member, Mr. Julian, and the Liberal members, and they are wanting to shut down debate.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
Mrs. Thomas is now calling out specific members of this committee for their work by name, which is not only entirely inappropriate, it's inaccurate. It's also entirely unprofessional.
Perhaps, Mr. Chair, you might ask her to not do that.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh
Continue, Mrs. Thomas, if you don't mind, on the subamendment put forward by Kevin Waugh.
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Conservative
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
I would ask you to caution all members about being respectful.
You'll recall, Mr. Chair, that the Speaker actually ruled on this, that the name-calling in the House of Commons is inappropriate. It's inappropriate at committee as well.
The Speaker has already ruled on this. I would ask, through you, that all members treat each other with respect.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh
I agree.
Can we all get along for a little while and deal with the subamendment, if you don't mind?
Mrs. Thomas, you started, and we have a speaking list here. The floor is yours.