Canadian Heritage Committee on Oct. 26th, 2023

[Michael Coteau, Liberal, Don Valley East, ON]

My hand is down now, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

Thank you.

On the point of order, I will go to Mrs. Thomas and then Ms. Gladu.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

I believe Ms. Gladu had her hand up first.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

Ms. Gladu, go ahead.

[Marilyn Gladu, Conservative, Sarnia—Lambton, ON]

Thank you, Chair.

What I would say is thank you for clarifying that it was rescheduled based on the chair who normally occupies the seat. It was my understanding that you didn't even know you were going to be chair until this morning. So I think for Mr. Julian to falsely accuse the Conservatives being responsible for this...that he should withdraw those comments.

Thank you.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

Mr. Julian.

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

I certainly will not. The record stands in terms of the delay around the CRTC a couple of years ago. It was unbelievable to me. My comments today—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

But we're talking about this meeting.

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

And my comments today are absolutely appropriate, given that for the last three days, when we should have been considering safe sports and recommendations to protect athletes and the public in safe sports, we have been consumed by a Conservative filibuster.

The Conservatives need to admit that. They need to come clean.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Point of order.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

On a point of order, Mrs. Thomas.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Thank you.

You know, Mr. Julian likes to sit at this table and try to belittle the members of the Conservative team. Most of his belittling is targeted at me. It's unfortunate that as a male colleague he finds it enjoyable to go after a younger female colleague.

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

A point of order.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Right now he is doing exactly that, and it is inappropriate. It is not a point of order that he is making.

[Lisa Hepfner, Liberal, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

A point of order.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Rather, he is taking an opportunity to debate.

[Lisa Hepfner, Liberal, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

I think this is also debate, which is what Madam Thomas was proposing in the first place.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Mr. Chair, I would ask that you bring the debate to a close—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

I would like to.

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

—and that we resume with the business of this meeting.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Kevin Waugh]

Yes, if we could.

I have two points of order in front of me, but I do want to bring everyone together here and get going on business today, if we can.

Mr. Julian, you were first up for a point of order and then Ms. Hepfner. Then I'd like to go with the speaking order that we have here and continue today.

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

Mrs. Thomas knows full well that I have immense respect for her. I compliment her experience—

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Point of order.

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

—and the fact—

[Rachael Thomas, Conservative, Lethbridge, AB]

Point of order.