Evidence of meeting #18 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was list.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Josée Harrison
Kim Wilford  General Counsel, GoFundMe
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG)
Dennis Glen Patterson  Senator, Nunavut, CSG
Jacob Wells  Co-Founder, GiveSendGo
Angelina Mason  General Counsel and Vice-President, Canadian Bankers Association
Michael Hatch  Vice-President, Government Relations, Canadian Credit Union Association

9 p.m.

Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Would you, Ms. Bendayan, add the time, half the allotted time, an hour and a half...?

9 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

I don't know if other members of this committee have this information, but I am not aware of what witnesses are scheduled for next Thursday, which does leave me in the position of looking to the clerk.

9 p.m.

NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

I do want to acknowledge that both our good clerks today are visiting us from another committee. Let me take a look at what we have here—

9 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface

I believe we expect to have two mayors next week. We have on the list the mayor of Windsor and the mayor of Coutts, I believe.

9 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Mr. Chair, I would just point out that he would have been here for part of a one and a half hour panel, so perhaps we could have him for 45 minutes to an hour or we could just add him to a panel with the mayors.

November 17th, 2022 / 9 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface

Because the clerk isn't here—and if my recollection is correct, next Thursday is the American Thanksgiving and they avoided that day for those witnesses because of that. I just want to be clear.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

The following week, on December 1, panel one is ITAC and Jody Thomas; panel 2 is Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters and the Manufacturiers et Exportateurs du Québec.

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

I would suggest that it could be done on December 1 then.

You're refusing to listen to the testimony from GiveSendGo because of the manufacturers.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Let's—

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

They could join the panel.

9 p.m.

NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

We do have witnesses here, and I do appreciate that the work plan has not been distributed. I do appreciate that. I acknowledge that in advance. I acknowledge the situation we're in with the fact that this gentleman did not attend in the first session, and I think that when we return, there will also be an opportunity in the subsequent weeks.

What I would ask you to do is to just set this aside for the moment and allow us to just continue these rounds, and I commit to you that we will get a work plan out and we'll be able to find time.

Look, I would have had him on this panel myself personally, but it wasn't the will of the committee, so now we're going to be dealing with this a little bit later.

9 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

That's fine, and I appreciate that, Mr. Chair. You invited me to bring forward my motion and so I did.

I would also like to repeat on the record that I asked the clerks at a previous meeting to be more forthright with all committee members as to the schedule for these meetings, and that has not occurred.

9 p.m.

NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Your feedback is duly noted.

With that being said, we will now go back to the rotation which will be

Mr. Fortin.

You have five minutes, Mr. Fortin.

Sir, the floor is yours.

9 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'd like some clarification.

Mr. Hatch, you said that 10 accounts had been seized, if I understood correctly.

Can you name the financial institutions in question?

9 p.m.

Vice-President, Government Relations, Canadian Credit Union Association

Michael Hatch

No, I can't.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Don't you have that information with you?

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Vice-President, Government Relations, Canadian Credit Union Association

Michael Hatch

I don't have it.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

You know that 10 accounts were seized, but you don't know which financial institutions they were with.

Is that correct?

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Vice-President, Government Relations, Canadian Credit Union Association

Michael Hatch

That's correct.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Very well.

Ms. Mason, I have the same question for you.

I believe you said earlier that the RCMP had seized 175 accounts, but there were 180 in all.

Is that correct?

9:05 p.m.

General Counsel and Vice-President, Canadian Bankers Association

Angelina Mason

That's correct, and it was freeze, not seize. I just want to make sure I clarify that.

9:05 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

I see.

Do you know the names of the institutions the seized accounts were with?

9:05 p.m.

General Counsel and Vice-President, Canadian Bankers Association

Angelina Mason

Yes, I know the names of the institutions.

9:05 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Can you give us the names, please?

9:05 p.m.

General Counsel and Vice-President, Canadian Bankers Association

Angelina Mason

I'm not in a position right now to give you those names.