Evidence of meeting #18 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was list.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Josée Harrison
Kim Wilford  General Counsel, GoFundMe
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG)
Dennis Glen Patterson  Senator, Nunavut, CSG
Jacob Wells  Co-Founder, GiveSendGo
Angelina Mason  General Counsel and Vice-President, Canadian Bankers Association
Michael Hatch  Vice-President, Government Relations, Canadian Credit Union Association

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

That is correct.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

There were 133,000 who originated in Canada, which is the 86%.

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Some 14,000 originated in the United States.

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Another 4,000 originated from 80 other countries, which represent 3%.

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

Yes. That is correct.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Of the just over $10 million raised before the fundraiser was shut down by your company, approximately $9 million of that originated from Canada, which represents 89%. Is that correct?

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

That is correct.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Only approximately $870,000 originated from the United States of America. You would agree with that.

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

From outside of Canada, yes, I would agree.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Yes. It's outside of Canada, but specifically from the U.S.

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

I don't have those exact numbers in front of me. I apologize.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I'm looking at a summary of an interview that you engaged in with the commission counsel of the Public Order Emergency Commission some time ago—

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

I apologize. You are now 45 seconds beyond your time. You had the opportunity to explore the last two minutes.

We will now move to Ms. Bendayan.

You have five minutes. The floor is yours.

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Thank you very much.

I think I will pick up where my colleague Mr. Brock left off.

If I understand your testimony correctly, Ms. Wilford, some 4,000 donors originated from outside Canada and the United States.

Did I understand that correctly?

6:50 p.m.

General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair.

I don't have those exact numbers in front of me right now during this testimony, but if that's what the prior testimony was, then, yes, that was correct. Those numbers were what I had at the time.

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Yes. Those are the numbers you provided, I believe, to the Public Order Emergency Commission. I appreciate that you might not have that information before you at the moment.

Can you commit to providing the committee a breakdown of where those donations originated from?

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

Thank you for that question.

I believe we already have, but, yes, we're happy to have a follow-up discussion about that.

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

It's so I can be specific, because I don't believe we have that information.

There are 80 other countries from which GoFundMe received donations with respect to this campaign. We would like a breakdown of those countries.

Perhaps you're not in a position to provide the names of those 80 other counties, but can you confirm to the committee that no donations were received from China?

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

I do not believe that any donations were received from China. Again, without the information in front of me right now, it's really hard for me to confirm with 100% certainty. However, I'm as certain as I can be right now.

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Can you similarly confirm that with respect to any donations coming from Russia?

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

That's correct. Yes.

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

We will await those further details.

I would like to go through some of the timeline quite quickly because, as you can see, our questioning time is limited.

On January 14, I understand that Tamara Lich created a fundraising campaign with a description of the campaign. That description was changed on January 18, following questions that GoFundMe posed to Ms. Lich.

Do I understand that correctly?

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General Counsel, GoFundMe

Kim Wilford

Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair.

Yes. You understand that correctly.