Evidence of meeting #23 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Normand Radford

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

I do not.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Can I ask the clerk, then, under this point of order, whether you are obliged, as chair, to actually call for expressions of interest from us, as members of this committee, before you write the names down in the speaking order?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

We can check the blues, but I did say that I have on the list the following speakers, and no one's hand went up anywhere else in the room.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

I don't recollect that, Mr. Chair. You will forgive me. I don't know if anybody else recollects that.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

That's the clerk's recollection of what the blues will tell us. We can check the blues to make sure.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Can we check those immediately?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

They're not printed until after the meeting, are they? By tomorrow morning we can verify that I said that.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

So you have no discretion to break this filibuster here, this order of speaking filibuster?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

I don't, not as the chair of this committee.

4:30 p.m.

An hon. member

We change the speaking order all the time. If somebody's in the washroom, we change the speaking order.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

I can certainly do it, unless someone complains.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Why don't I propose that we actually conduct this committee...?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

No one's going to agree to that. I need unanimous consent to change that, and we're not going to get agreement. I think--

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

I'd like to get that on the record. As part of this point of order--

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

I think you're pushing the point of order, Mr. McGuinty.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

--I'd like to propose that you revisit the speaking order so we can get a fair debate here.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

Let me ask the question. Do I have any interest here in changing the speaking order?

4:30 p.m.

An hon. member

Yes.

4:30 p.m.

An hon. member

No.

4:30 p.m.

An hon. member

Alternate it. Government, opposition....

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Yes.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

I have a no. It is not unanimous. Let's carry on.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Who's the no from, Mr. Chair?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

The no is from the members.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Which members?