Evidence of meeting #19 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.
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NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
No. I would prefer you just vote down my amendment, because I'm not satisfied with it.
NDP
Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
I want to come back to Mr. Warawa's helpful comment in a second. First I wanted to ask Ms. Cosgrove something.
I didn't ask how the appointment of review officers is made. The minister makes the appointment, fine. I want to ask, is the minister able to make review officer positions based on any of these elements of criteria of capacity? So the minister can say, I'm going to appoint that person specifically because they have TEC, traditional ecological knowledge, or I'm going to appoint them specifically because they have human health, they're a trained nurse, as opposed to a combination of these skills and a combination of this knowledge base. That's all I'm asking. Is that correct?
Manager, Legislative Advice Section, Department of the Environment
This particular provision gives the discretion, Mr. Chair, to the minister to appoint an individual as a review officer if they can meet any one of these four areas. I would like to clarify, though, that environment and human health is a linked skill set in this list, and therefore that would be considered in terms of the type of human health expertise sought.
Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
I understand Ms. Duncan's amendment is about trying to see whether there should be a combination of these skills and abilities in substance. Is that right?
Manager, Legislative Advice Section, Department of the Environment
The NDP-12 amendment, as I understand it, contains a list. The same criteria would apply; there's an “or”. So any one of the skill sets listed in Ms. Duncan's amendment would be sufficient in order to make an appointment.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Are we ready to call the question on NDP-12?
(Amendment negatived)
(Clauses 68 to 72 inclusive agreed to)
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Mr. Warawa, I believe you wanted to propose a health break for 15 minutes.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC
Mr. Chair, I would move a 15-minute health break, followed by this meeting reconvening and going to 12 o'clock.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
I would suggest a five-minute break, if time is of the essence.
Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
Mr. Chair, I have to cancel a luncheon I'm hosting, and I have to cancel two meetings as well to get this done. So why don't we take ten minutes here and reconvene until at least 12 o'clock and see how far we've gotten.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
I would ask members to come to the table.
Let's move on.
Next up is clause 73 and amendment NDP-13 on page 28.
(On clause 73)
Please proceed, Ms. Duncan.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
I'm removing NDP-13 and NDP-14. I have spoken to the Justice lawyers and they have satisfied me that it is consistent with other statutes. We did not have that assurance before.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Thank you.
We also have a government amendment, G-7.1.
Could you explain this amendment to us, Mr. Woodworth?
Conservative
Conservative
Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON
I'm sorry. I will move amendment G-7.1 as it appears before us.
This is to correct a minor drafting issue that was brought to our attention by the shipping industry people. We are replacing the word “and” between master and chief engineer with “or”, reinforcing that with the phrase “as the case may be”, and singularizing it to “is”.
This will make it clear that we are not trying to impose liability on one for the other; we are simply saying that either one alone may be liable for this offence. It's strictly a technical drafting correction.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Judging from our previous discussions, I think there is a consensus to adopt this amendment.
(Clause 73 as amended agreed to)
(Clauses 74, 75, 76 and 77 inclusive agreed to)