Evidence of meeting #114 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was see.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
We are governed by rules in this body, and we have to respect those rules.
Whether you like it or not, the chair opened debate on a prima facie—
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Liberal
James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON
And if you will yield the floor for a moment, I will discuss those rules.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
—case of privilege when she said there would be a vote. You can have the floor once we proceed with the vote.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
Mr. Maloney, we can't interrupt him at the moment. Unless he's going around in circles—and I'm very mindful that we're getting there—you can't interrupt him.
Let's just wrap it up, if you don't mind.
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Liberal
May 22nd, 2018 / 9:45 p.m.
Liberal
James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON
The member opposite just said he is not speaking to his question of privilege anymore, which is the subject matter of the discussion at this table right now. By his own admission I think we should move on.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I'm speaking to a point of order. Are we speaking to a point of privilege?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
No. You were speaking on a point of order on your question of privilege.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Yes. The very fact there is a discussion on a point of privilege means that a prima facie case has been found—
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
—in this case. You just can't have it both ways. You can't have a debate while not accepting a prima facie case of privilege. Those are the rules to how a committee works. Not only is the whole process by which this legislation is being pushed through an assault on democracy, but now you're “unruling” a previous ruling on a prima facie case of privilege, which is itself an issue of privilege.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
Okay, Garnett, you're wrapping around a knot here. I did not rule that you had a case. I am not accepting your point of privilege.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
There's a lot that I've already gone through and I'm not going to spend the time to go over it again. I've already gone through several times why I'm not accepting it. I'm not going around and extending this. We're all going to be here very late. All you're doing is extending this, and I don't think that's appropriate based on how we have gone forward so far.
It is not a question of privilege. I'm not accepting it. There's no ruling here for anybody to vote on. It was my mistake. I'm accepting that. We're done.
