Environment Committee on May 22nd, 2018

[Jean-Sébastien Rochon]

In terms of legal Latin maxims, not that I have found, but we would probably need to look a bit more into what the intent is. I understand the issue is that the intent is for the board member not to vote. The board member may be nominated in an advisory capacity, and might not be working on the report. Perhaps that's what's being contemplated, but I'm speculating.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Mr. Viersen is next, and then we're going to end this conversation.

[Arnold Viersen, Conservative, Peace River—Westlock, AB]

I was just thinking about the other committee I sit on, where there are two Liberal members who are members of the committee but don't participate. I'm not sure how the wording is on that one. Is that non-voting in that case?

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Yes, but we're back to the voting issue again, and we're trying to stay away from the voting issue. There was a suggestion, potentially, that it could be in a non-official capacity.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON]

Advisory capacity?

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

An advisory capacity, if you want to say it like that.

It's really not up to me. It's your amendment.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON]

Right, but I do have to ask the question to make sure this can be done procedurally correctly.

Would it be possible then to remove the word that I had suggested be added in? Also, assuming that we don't put those words into line 30, but what we now say is that, on line 26, “two of the persons appointed under subsection (1) must be appointed, in an”—and I forgot what the word was....

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Advisory.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON]

“advisory capacity, from a roster”.

[John Aldag, Liberal, Cloverdale—Langley City, BC]

Madam Chair, are we at the five minutes on this clause?

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Yes, we're done.

This is what we're voting on. It's an amendment that is going to go in at line 26, and it says, “under subsection (1) must be appointed, in an advisory capacity, from a roster established under paragraph 50(d)”.

It's inserting “in an advisory capacity” after “appointed”.

[Churence Rogers, Liberal, Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL]

Madam Chair, if I could interject here, we've already voted on the CNSC, CER, and the CNSOPB. Quite frankly, I'm shocked that the Conservatives would be advancing this, because this is a direct attack on the C-NLOPB from my perspective.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

I understand.

[Churence Rogers, Liberal, Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL]

I think it's an affront to the C-NLOPB.

Back in Newfoundland and Labrador, folks are not going to be happy with the CPC that they would participate in this kind of an amendment. I fully intend to vote against it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Okay, I hear you, but we're just trying to get what it is that you're voting against. I think we have it clear. We're inserting the words “must be appointed, in an advisory capacity, from a roster established under paragraph 50(d)”.

Shall the amendment carry?

Do you want a recorded vote?

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON]

Please, yes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Mr. Reid, who were you voting for?

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON]

Apparently I'm not on here because I was replacing him. He's back, so I have to replace somebody else.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We have to be official.

When you're voting, it's really important. Are we all straight?

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're going to LIB-78.

[John Aldag, Liberal, Cloverdale—Langley City, BC]

Madam Chair, this one is very similar to LIB-76 that we've already discussed. It's simply ensuring that it respects this role for the Canadian energy.... They're the life-cycle regulators, but they don't have a majority of members on the panel.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Okay. I think that's clear.

Shall the amendment carry?

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Shall clause 7 as amended carry?

It's a recorded vote.

(Clause 7 as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Shall clause 8 carry?

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Clause 8 agreed to: yeas 8; nays 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])