Evidence of meeting #90 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was regulations.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Champagne  Procedural Clerk, Journals Branch, House of Commons
Matt Jones  Assistant Deputy Minister, Pan-Canadian Framework Implementation Office , Department of the Environment
Joyce Henry  Director General, Office of Energy Efficiency, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Frank DesRosiers  Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Energy Technology Sector, Department of Natural Resources
John Moffet  Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Matt Parry  Director General, Strategic Policy Directorate, Department of the Environment

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Hang on, do I need to do something else?

He's going to make sure it's clear so that we'll vote on each one individually, and then they'll be clear. I thought we would need to go through each one. You heard the clauses that Mr. Bossio wants to amend.

Is there any further discussion necessary, or can we move those amendments to the clauses together?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

May I just ask where this came from?

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

It came as a result of noticing that there were other areas of the document that weren't consistent.

I don't think it really matters.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

[Inaudible—Editor] know where it came from?

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Does it really matter?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I don't think it's relevant.

Mr. Fast.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

All three of the amendments in this package amend the bill to reflect what we are actually doing.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

We're moving to a sustainable development approach rather than just an environment-focused approach, which everybody at this committee has supported throughout the whole study of this bill. So it makes eminent sense.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Thank you.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

Ed for president.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

All those in favour of the two amendments that were brought forward—

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Procedural Clerk, Journals Branch, House of Commons

Olivier Champagne

It has to be unanimous.

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

It just has to be unanimous; everybody has to vote for it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

All in favour?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

(Amendments agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings]

Wonderful. Thank you very much.

Linda.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Now that we've agreed that we can go back in the bill, I would like to go back to one part of the 13 amendments that I brought forward. The specific amendment that I would like the parties at the table, the individuals at the table, to reconsider is NDP-2. That's on page 3 of the bill.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Which one are we...?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's adding after line 11, on page 3.... If you go to NDP-2 and look at my amendment, you'll see that I had recommended adding:

the principle of environmental justice, which is the principle that environmental impacts should be equitably distributed among all Canadians; and

The reason I've decided to revisit this is not just because it was recommended by the committee in our review, and recommended by witnesses to our committee, but because it's consistent with what our committee has recommended for revision of CEPA. I would like the committee to rethink this and see if they would agree to that one small part of one of my amendments...to also include that principle of environmental justice.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Mr. Fast.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Madam Chair, this is something we've already discussed. We thoroughly canvassed this particular amendment. It was voted down, and we've moved on. Now, I understood that Ms. Duncan was going to bring forward a new matter. I assumed it related to consistency in the bill, but this is substantive, something we've discussed at a previous meeting.

That I object to. I had no idea exactly what she was going to bring forward, and I think this is out of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I didn't know either.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

There isn't unanimous consent.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Mr. Gerretsen, did you want to speak to what Linda has brought forward?