Evidence of meeting #29 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was plastics.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Helen Ryan  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Marc D'Iorio  Assistant Deputy Minister, Science and Technology Branch, Department of the Environment
Dany Drouin  Director General, Plastics and Waste Management Directorate, Department of the Environment
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Angela Crandall

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I don't have any other speakers—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Chair—

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, go ahead.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

If Liberal members are willing to say we're putting too much emphasis head-on, are they willing to look at a reduced number? Instead of having all those meetings up front, if the minister is the sticking point—and I would contend the minister should be making time for us, not the other way around, because this is his legislation and he would want to work with parliamentarians—could we then just pencil in that particular portion?

I want to remind members that the amount of time we have been putting many of our translators and staff through has been extreme. Again, as MP McLeod said, to be going 11 weeks straight is putting more time on that. I'm asking Liberal members, if they're willing, to perhaps reduce what they put forward.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Go ahead, Mr. Bachrach.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I've been listening carefully to my colleagues. As I think everyone knows, I support dealing with this legislation in as timely a manner as possible. I don't think it's lost on any of us that we're rapidly approaching the end of the sitting. If we want to make significant headway, we need to expedite things. We spoke in the House from our frustration regarding the time it took to get to this point, but now that we find ourselves at this point, I would very much like to turn our focus, as a committee, to moving forward with hearing from the witnesses and looking at the legislation ourselves.

As I've stated before, I support an expedited approach, of course respecting the resources of the House. I believe it behooves us as MPs to focus on the important stuff before us and arrange our schedules accordingly. I'm certainly prepared to do that to meet the requirements of the schedule that has been proposed in Mr. Saini's amendment.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

There are no other speakers.

I guess we go to a vote, Madam Clerk.

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

The vote is on the amendment of Mr. Saini.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Madam Clerk, do we now vote on the motion as amended?

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes, on the report.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Chair—

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Go ahead, Mr. Albas.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I would like to encourage all colleagues, when they come to future steering committee meetings, to come prepared to negotiate and for their representative to negotiate so that we can deal with those things. If they were simply going to be overruled by the committee, which is its right, then we should not use that forum.

I find those meetings can be very productive, but I also do believe, Mr. Chair, there also needs to be transparency on these things, which is one of the reasons why we were in camera doing this. Whatever we do, I believe Canadians deserve to know what their elected officials are up to, within certain parameters. It's unfortunate that we ended up seeing a break of consensus today. I would hope that members would try better next time.

I will be voting against this motion.

Thank you.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

We'll go to the vote, Madam Clerk.

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

The vote is on the steering committee's report as amended.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay, so—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Chair—

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, go ahead, Mr. Albas.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I'd like to put a motion to adjourn.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay. We'll vote on that now.

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

The vote is on a motion to adjourn.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0)

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Despite the late start, we are finishing at 5:30 on the dot.

On Monday, though, we really have to delve into the CEPA Volkswagen report. That will be in camera. It looks like a good report. It doesn't seem too long, so hopefully we can get through it in two hours and then go on to see the minister on the 12th, I believe it is.

Thank you, all our members, for your participation today.

Have a good evening, everyone. See you Wednesday at 3:30 p.m.

The meeting is adjourned.