Evidence of meeting #14 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jerry V. DeMarco  Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, Office of the Auditor General
Kimberley Leach  Principal, Office of the Auditor General
Sébastien Labelle  Director General, Clean Fuels Branch, Department of Natural Resources
John Moffet  Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Philippe Le Goff  Principal, Office of the Auditor General
Derek Hermanutz  Director General, Economic Analysis Directorate, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of the Environment
Andrew Brown  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Chris Bates  Director General, Apprenticeship and Sectoral Initiatives Directorate, Department of Employment and Social Development

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

“that the committee....”

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Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

I would put in control of the committee, so “that the committee consider inviting organizations to appear to discuss the findings of the....”

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Give me just a second. Let me write this down. “That the committee consider inviting organizations....”

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Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

“to discuss the findings”.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Mr. Chair, just as a point of clarification, I think Mr. Longfield may have read the motion...or maybe when I read it out it wasn't clear. It's “that organizations that are invited to appear—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

—before the committee....”

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That's right. Then you're not inviting anybody.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Yes. It does not require us to invite all of them. It's the exact same motion as public accounts uses. It would be the same procedure you would experience there.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

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Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Okay. Thank you. It's the exact same motion. Thank you for clarifying.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

Go ahead, Mr. Dreeshen.

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Conservative

Earl Dreeshen Conservative Red Deer—Mountain View, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I had wanted to make that particular point as well.

What we do have handed out and what Ms. Collins read are two different things. It says, “To the committee and the commissioner within six months of the audit”. What she indicated was the “commissioner of the environment” and so on. So I would think that what she read should be the part that is included. The part that was just distributed....

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

How would you change what I have on paper?

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Conservative

Earl Dreeshen Conservative Red Deer—Mountain View, AB

I would listen to what Laurel said when she talked about “and the commissioner—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

—of the environment and sustainable development”.

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Conservative

Earl Dreeshen Conservative Red Deer—Mountain View, AB

Yes.

Whereas what I have in English—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That's just a friendly amendment, I think.

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Conservative

Earl Dreeshen Conservative Red Deer—Mountain View, AB

Yes, absolutely.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Do you accept that, Ms. Collins? Instead of saying “the commissioner”, we say “that the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development within six months of the audit”. We're just specifying that it's Mr. DeMarco, basically.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Absolutely, yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay. It's a friendly amendment that's accepted.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

The one I read out was “the commissioner”.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

Based on this brief discussion, do members want to adopt this motion?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Thank you.

We'll continue.

Ms. Collins, you basically have a little under a minute, probably about 50 seconds. Please go ahead.

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Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, Office of the Auditor General

Jerry V. DeMarco

Mr. Chair, if I could make a friendly amendment to my amended response, I forgot about scope 1 and 2 emissions for Crown corporations, which are a different exhibit, in 2.2. That's another 397 kilotonnes in addition to what I said before.