Evidence of meeting #99 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alain Pietroniro  Professor, Forum for Leadership on Water
Tim Faveri  Vice President, Sustainability and Stakeholder Relations, Nutrien Ltd.
Billy-Joe Tuccaro  Mikisew Cree First Nation
Elizabeth Hendriks  Vice-President, Restoration and Regeneration, World Wildlife Fund-Canada
Mike Nemeth  Senior Adviser, Agriculture and Environment Sustainability, Nutrien Ltd.
J. Michael Miltenberger  Special Adviser, Centre for Indigenous Environmental Resources
Jimmy Bouchard  Support Representative, Conseil régional de l'environnement et du développement durable du Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean
Mark Fisher  President and Chief Executive Officer, Council of the Great Lakes Region
Pierre Petelle  President and Chief Executive Officer, CropLife Canada
Terri Stewart  Executive Director, Chemistry, CropLife Canada

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Thank you, Chair.

Thanks again to the witnesses.

I'm going to start with Mr. Miltenberger.

Last week I met with Steven Nitah of the Łutsël K’é Dene nation. He's a past chief. He also told me about the collaborative process that had been used up in your area.

Is that a process that you have a patent on or that you can share with the committee as we look at the Canada Water Act coming up for review? That collaborative process might be very valuable for us to consider.

6:15 p.m.

Special Adviser, Centre for Indigenous Environmental Resources

J. Michael Miltenberger

Thank you.

Mr. Nitah and I were MLAs together as well, and we've been doing work together. He was involved [Technical difficulty—Editor] when we negotiated the Thaidene Nene National Park, so the political will is there.

It's transportable to anywhere, which is why CLI is going around where we are with that model. It's because it gets together two orders of government that don't normally talk to each other. First nations—

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Is there something you can submit?

He also mentioned that Michael McLeod had been involved, and he's an MP as well now.

6:15 p.m.

Special Adviser, Centre for Indigenous Environmental Resources

J. Michael Miltenberger

Yes. We have many documents on the CIER website that we can capture for you and share with the committee.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Thank you so much. I'm dying to see it myself. I said that's a model we could all learn from, so thank you.

Mr. Petelle and Ms. Stewart, my last question is to you.

First of all, congratulations to Lorne Hepworth on being inducted into the Agricultural Hall of Fame. Your predecessor at CropLife did some incredible work—work on the Guelph statement in particular, on the sustainability of agriculture and what's done to make sure that the right amount of product is being put on the plants, whether it's fertilizer, pesticides or control products.

I heard in our last meeting and now again today that monitoring water involves more than just water; it also involves soil monitoring and air monitoring. Is that something you can help us with in terms of technology? Is there some direction you could point us as a committee that we could include in our report?

6:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, CropLife Canada

Pierre Petelle

From a scientific perspective, water monitoring to look for point source pollution is a very good surrogate for determining whether or not the measures in your regulatory structure, your on-field buffer strips and your vegetative strips are working. I think water monitoring gives you a very good picture of whether those things are working or not.

Soil monitoring is usually more to give the farmer the information they need. I mentioned that per square foot, it tells them exactly what the nutrient needs are right down to the smallest part of their field. The data needs are different, but there are technologies and there are companies that are being invested in that are looking at exactly how to measure that at a field level in real time and give the data to your phone.

It's an incredibly innovative time in agriculture right now.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

These details we could maybe have included in a footnote in our report. It would be helpful.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Thank you very much. Thank you to the witnesses for your insights and information.

Go ahead, Ms. Collins.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

I wanted to test to see if my microphone is working—

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I think it is now.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

—and if I could potentially use my last minute before we finish.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Sure, go ahead with a very quick question, because you did cede your time.

Anyway, go ahead.

February 27th, 2024 / 6:15 p.m.

NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Yes, rather than asking them questions, since we're done with the witnesses, I was wondering if maybe we could unanimously support the motion to bring the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to appear—

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, of course. Do we unanimously...?

I think you won't find any objection, because—

6:20 p.m.

NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

I have a quick tweak to add the department officials for the second hour.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

—I've spoken to the minister's office, and he's set to come on the 19th.

6:20 p.m.

NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Okay.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's all done. It will be with the officials as well, obviously, because that's how we normally do it.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Is it set for two hours?

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I don't know if the minister will be here for two hours, but he's been invited, and it's in his calendar.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

How about the expenses for our trip?

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Those have not been issued by the process that tabulates all of this.

Anyway, going back to you, Ms. Collins, yes, we all agree with your motion. There's no objection to your motion, because it's de facto going to happen anyway.

6:20 p.m.

NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Wonderful.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Ms. Pauzé, did you have something to add?

6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes. I wanted to remind you that there will be a subcommittee meeting on Thursday.