Evidence of meeting #16 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was evas.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Wiseman  Senior Climate Policy Manager, The Atmospheric Fund
Sinasac  Director of Standards and Government Affairs, Electro-Federation Canada
Sebileau  Sustainable mobility analyst, Équiterre
Côté  Chairman of the Board of Directors, Association des véhicules électriques du Québec
Adams  President, Global Automakers of Canada
Pascalon  Senior project manager, Propulsion Québec

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Is there debate on the suggested amendment?

(Amendment negatived)

We'll go back to debate on the main motion.

Mrs. Miedema.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Shannon Miedema Liberal Halifax, NS

I'm sorry. I have one other. It's a question of clarity.

After the words “the audit's recommendations”, we should add “from the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development”. That way, it's audit recommendations from that commissioner. Otherwise, it could mean just any audit recommendations. I think that's appropriate for this motion.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Is there debate on the suggested amendment?

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Ms. Miedema, could you specify where the amendment would go?

1 p.m.

Liberal

Shannon Miedema Liberal Halifax, NS

It would be to add, after “the audit's recommendations”, the words “from the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development”. It wouldn't be just any audit recommendations.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Mr. Leslie.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I see the intention. To me, it seems very clear. Given that it says “the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development” in the same sentence, I think it's pretty clear that our committee would not feel the prerogative to just willy-nilly pick a different department outside of Environment or outside of this commissioner's report.

I don't think it's a necessary addition.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Mrs. Miedema.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Shannon Miedema Liberal Halifax, NS

Is it an issue, or can we just do it for clarity's sake? Words do matter.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chair, we have been working on these motions for several days. The commissioner of the environment and sustainable development himself proposed the wording. It is the same as under previous parliaments. I think we should keep it as is.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

However, the committee decides on the words, not the commissioner. That's why the amendments are being proposed.

Is there any debate on the amendment?

(Amendment negatived)

Mr. Fanjoy.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Bruce Fanjoy Liberal Carleton, ON

Mr. Chair, it's not the responsibility of this committee to directly name government officials and assign them work. I therefore move to remove the line that states “and responsible individuals”, and instead place the word “and” after “including specific actions”.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Is there debate on the suggested amendment?

Mr. Leslie.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Could you repeat where that is going?

1 p.m.

Liberal

Bruce Fanjoy Liberal Carleton, ON

We would remove the line that states “and responsible individuals” and instead place the word “and” after “including specific actions”.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

No. I like accountability.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Is there further debate?

(Amendment negatived)

Are there any further amendments?

Mr. Fanjoy.

Bruce Fanjoy Liberal Carleton, ON

I move to amend the motion by striking, in the second paragraph, the word “organization” and replacing it with “Environment and Climate Change Canada”.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Is there debate on the amendment?

(Amendment negatived)

Are there any further amendments?

Mr. Leslie, go ahead.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Given that we have since had a report from the environment commissioner, in the last paragraph that currently reads “before the committee to discuss his reports, including those of June 2025”, I would amend it to add “and November 2025”.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Is there debate?

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

I would like to ask a question, Mr. Chair.

Would you like to add the comment everywhere “June 2025” appears, or just at the end?

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Mr. Leslie, go ahead.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I believe it would be just at the end, given that the responding departments or agencies would not be able to fulfill the obligation as outlined earlier, so it would just be regarding the appearance that would include the “November 2025” portion.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

I want to make sure I understand. Do you not want the action plans to be produced following the report tabled in November? If appropriate, I think we should add your interesting proposal.