Environment Committee on Nov. 27th, 2025

[Carol Anstey, Conservative, Long Range Mountains, NL]

The following would be added: “(c) that the other major auto manufacturers in Canada, namely Ford, Toyota, Honda, General Motors, and Stellantis be also called to provide the same information.”

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Are Kia and Hyundai on your list?

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Mr. Bonin is asking if Kia is included.

[Carol Anstey, Conservative, Long Range Mountains, NL]

Those are the major Canadian manufacturers. That's what's listed.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

They are under the mandate as well.

[Carol Anstey, Conservative, Long Range Mountains, NL]

We can add Kia, no problem.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Why don't we just ask for all manufacturers that are falling under this?

Here I am speaking in English. My apologies.

[Branden Leslie, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

Perhaps we could ask the clerk to compile that list, and have it added if we agree to that list being what the amendment is, and not have us googling various companies that are selling cars in Canada.

If we could maybe just have that agreement, the clerk could do it himself.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Friends, I'm going to ask you to keep that thought in mind.

I'm going to Ms. Miedema.

[Shannon Miedema, Liberal, Halifax, NS]

I move that we suspend, please, for a few minutes.

Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

We'll suspend.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

I call the meeting to order.

We're resuming debate.

I was with Mr. St-Pierre who last requested a point of order.

Go ahead, Mr. St-Pierre.

[Eric St-Pierre, Liberal, Honoré-Mercier, QC]

Just very quickly, it would have been nice to have this motion in advance. Maybe it's a suggestion to my colleagues to provide this in advance and not dump it on us at the last minute. Providing bilingual versions would also be very much appreciated.

This doesn't allow us much time to review it. We have some questions as to whether it's a potential violation of the Competition Act or if it's legal.

I don't have much else to comment on, so I will leave it there.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

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[Shannon Miedema, Liberal, Halifax, NS]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I think we don't want to get in the way of the request for this information. It's information we are all very interested in. We're unsure if we'll get it. We're prepared to go to a vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Thank you, Ms. Miedema.

Go ahead, Mr. Leslie.

[Branden Leslie, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

That's great, Chair.

Just to my colleague's point, because this may come up again in the future on an entirely different issue, this committee is a sovereign body that can request whatever it wants. We can't compel anything necessarily. There are certain powers, but let's not go down that path just yet. There is zero chance that it is illegal to ask for information. We may not get the details we want. I think it's our best chance at getting any transparency in this space in what is a rather opaque process. I appreciate the willingness to just move to a vote. I just want to assure that it's not illegal to ask for things.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Mr. Lemire, you have the floor.

[Sébastien Lemire, Bloc, Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC]

I’d like to point out that there is established consensus for dialogue and that the Bloc Québécois will support it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Before we get to that, it should be noted that the first amendment to include the word “Canadian” has been agreed to.

Let us now turn to the second amendment Ms. Anstey was going to present.

Do we proceed with debate on the second amendment or are we going to have a vote on the motion?

We are going to have a debate on the second amendment.

Ms. Anstey, you have the floor.

[Carol Anstey, Conservative, Long Range Mountains, NL]

I have provided to the clerk a list of all of the companies that manufacture cars in Canada that this would apply to. We've included it. We believe that this would cover any concerns that our Bloc colleague had. I would move that it be the amendment that we would make.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Has this second amendment been forwarded to all members?

Go ahead, Mr. St-Pierre.

[Eric St-Pierre, Liberal, Honoré-Mercier, QC]

I have a clarification question for my colleague, Mrs. Anstey.

Is this section (c)?

Okay, thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

I'm going to ask the clerk to read section (c), which is an amendment.

And then we can debate it.

You have the floor, Mr. Clerk.

[The Clerk]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Ms. Anstey has proposed the addition of section (c):

that the other major auto manufacturers in Canada, namely Ford, Toyota, Honda, General Motors and Stellantis be also requested to provide the same information.

In English, it's “that the other major auto manufacturers in Canada, namely Ford, Toyota, Honda, General Motors and Stellantis be also requested to provide the same information”.

That was my understanding.