Evidence of meeting #17 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vehicles.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Reuss  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Automobile Dealers Association
Bernard  Chief Economist, Canadian Automobile Dealers Association
Kingston  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association
Gessaroli  Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute

1 p.m.

Conservative

Carol Anstey Conservative Long Range Mountains, NL

The following would be added: “(c) that the other major auto manufacturers in Canada, namely Ford, Toyota, Honda, General Motors, and Stellantis be also called to provide the same information.”

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Are Kia and Hyundai on your list?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Mr. Bonin is asking if Kia is included.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Carol Anstey Conservative Long Range Mountains, NL

Those are the major Canadian manufacturers. That's what's listed.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

They are under the mandate as well.

Carol Anstey Conservative Long Range Mountains, NL

We can add Kia, no problem.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Why don't we just ask for all manufacturers that are falling under this?

Here I am speaking in English. My apologies.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Perhaps we could ask the clerk to compile that list, and have it added if we agree to that list being what the amendment is, and not have us googling various companies that are selling cars in Canada.

If we could maybe just have that agreement, the clerk could do it himself.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Friends, I'm going to ask you to keep that thought in mind.

I'm going to Ms. Miedema.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Shannon Miedema Liberal Halifax, NS

I move that we suspend, please, for a few minutes.

Thank you.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

We'll suspend.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

I call the meeting to order.

We're resuming debate.

I was with Mr. St-Pierre who last requested a point of order.

Go ahead, Mr. St-Pierre.

Eric St-Pierre Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Just very quickly, it would have been nice to have this motion in advance. Maybe it's a suggestion to my colleagues to provide this in advance and not dump it on us at the last minute. Providing bilingual versions would also be very much appreciated.

This doesn't allow us much time to review it. We have some questions as to whether it's a potential violation of the Competition Act or if it's legal.

I don't have much else to comment on, so I will leave it there.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

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Shannon Miedema Liberal Halifax, NS

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I think we don't want to get in the way of the request for this information. It's information we are all very interested in. We're unsure if we'll get it. We're prepared to go to a vote.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Thank you, Ms. Miedema.

Go ahead, Mr. Leslie.

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

That's great, Chair.

Just to my colleague's point, because this may come up again in the future on an entirely different issue, this committee is a sovereign body that can request whatever it wants. We can't compel anything necessarily. There are certain powers, but let's not go down that path just yet. There is zero chance that it is illegal to ask for information. We may not get the details we want. I think it's our best chance at getting any transparency in this space in what is a rather opaque process. I appreciate the willingness to just move to a vote. I just want to assure that it's not illegal to ask for things.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Mr. Lemire, you have the floor.

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I’d like to point out that there is established consensus for dialogue and that the Bloc Québécois will support it.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Before we get to that, it should be noted that the first amendment to include the word “Canadian” has been agreed to.

Let us now turn to the second amendment Ms. Anstey was going to present.

Do we proceed with debate on the second amendment or are we going to have a vote on the motion?

We are going to have a debate on the second amendment.

Ms. Anstey, you have the floor.

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

Carol Anstey Conservative Long Range Mountains, NL

I have provided to the clerk a list of all of the companies that manufacture cars in Canada that this would apply to. We've included it. We believe that this would cover any concerns that our Bloc colleague had. I would move that it be the amendment that we would make.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Has this second amendment been forwarded to all members?

Go ahead, Mr. St-Pierre.

Eric St-Pierre Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I have a clarification question for my colleague, Mrs. Anstey.

Is this section (c)?

Okay, thank you.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

I'm going to ask the clerk to read section (c), which is an amendment.

And then we can debate it.

You have the floor, Mr. Clerk.

The Clerk

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Ms. Anstey has proposed the addition of section (c):

that the other major auto manufacturers in Canada, namely Ford, Toyota, Honda, General Motors and Stellantis be also requested to provide the same information.

In English, it's “that the other major auto manufacturers in Canada, namely Ford, Toyota, Honda, General Motors and Stellantis be also requested to provide the same information”.

That was my understanding.