Environment Committee on Dec. 11th, 2025

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I hope to be able to bring you the strengthened methane regulations soon. Once I have the final version of the regulations—

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Minister, I am talking about the delay between 2030 and 2035.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I'm telling you that we have strengthened regulations. We said we would do it. We included it in budget—

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

It's the same regulations.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

When I present the final version of the regulations—

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Okay. You are not answering the question.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

—we can talk with accurate data in hand.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

You disagree with the Pembina Institute.

While we wait for your regulations, there is a five-year delay and 53 million more tonnes of CO₂ will be emitted.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I disagree, but we have to look at the regulations to show exactly what—

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Do you have a study that shows the increase in greenhouse gas emissions associated with the expansion of the Trans Mountain pipeline? According to the MOU, it is an increase of 300,000 to 400,000 barrels of oil per day.

Do you have a study showing the increase in greenhouse gas emissions linked to increased production?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

We know that in Canada, the sector that emits the most greenhouse gases is the oil and gas sector.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

How much greenhouse gas emissions do 300,000 to 400,000 barrels represent?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

We have that data. We know that.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

Can you provide that information? How many more tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions will be emitted? You don't seem to know.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I have to double-check.

[Patrick Bonin, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

You didn't look into it. You signed an MOU—

[The Chair, Liberal, Angelo Iacono]

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

The meeting is adjourned.