Evidence of meeting #29 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was project.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Julie Dabrusin  Minister of the Environment, Climate Change and Nature
Campbell  Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency
Shannon  Assistant Deputy Minister, Canadian Wildlife Service, Department of the Environment
McDermott  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and International Affairs Branch, Department of the Environment
Chin Quee  Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Department of the Environment
Hubbard  President, Impact Assessment Agency of Canada
Nichols  Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

We've all understood that our Liberal colleagues are filibustering. You haven't mentioned how much longer we have interpretation services. Clearly, our Liberal colleagues want to take all their time to avoid a serious debate of the motion.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

I was expecting someone to ask. You are free to ask the clerk. I've already taken that step. The resources are available until 1:30 p.m.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Perhaps our colleague could stop and we could get down to real business.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Ms. Miedema, you have the floor.

Shannon Miedema Liberal Halifax, NS

Every hour spent relitigating settled ground is an hour not spent helping communities prepare for the next wildfire, the next flood or the next storm. When politicians use climate policy as a political football, it's Canadians who pay the price. It's farmers who lose their crops, it's families who are losing their homes to wildfires and it's small business owners who can't afford the rising insurance premiums. If we don't act now, it's the next generation that will inherit a world that is less stable, less safe and less prosperous.

We also need to recognize that moving past this gridlock is not just an environmental imperative. It's an economic one. The global economy is transitioning. The race to a net-zero future is on, and countries that lead the transition will secure the jobs, the investments and the prosperity of the 21st century. If we allow partisan bickering to slow us down, Canada will—

1:25 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

On a point of order, I was wondering if we could seek clarification on how long we have resources for and if this planned filibuster will take us into the backroom-deal, organized majority by the Liberal government to hide transparency from Canadians.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

I will ask the clerk to share with us how the time is calculated, being that it's a bit confusing with what you see on the net and the hour that is attributed to services. He will clarify the time slots: when they begin and when they end.

Mr. Clerk, you have the floor.

Are you comfortable speaking in French? That way, Mr. Bonin will understand better.

The Clerk

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The interpretation services can provide their assistance for two hours and fifteen minutes of the meeting, not counting suspensions. The meeting began at 11:03 a.m. and the suspension lasted about 13 minutes. If my calculation is right, interpretation services can be available until about 1:30 p.m. That's the information I've just received.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Okay.

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

What happens now, then?

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

It's 1:30. Since we no longer have any interpretation services, we can't go on.

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Is the meeting suspended or adjourned? I'm just curious as to whether this filibuster to avoid transparency is continuing tomorrow....

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

The meeting is adjourned, or....

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I'm curious about the procedural....

The Clerk

Strictly speaking, the meeting adjourns at the will of the committee. From time to time, and usually, if ever we see the chair adjourn the meeting directly, at the usual time of adjournment, it's because the chair observes that there is implied consent among the members.

I hope that answers your question, sir.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

We have no services. There's no interpretation as of right now, so I can't go forward. We need to have interpretation.

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I understand that. When there's not consent in that scenario, what happens?

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

Do you mean consent to continue?

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I mean consent for adjournment. We're not at the normal time, but we're running out of resources.

The Clerk

In my role, I advise the chair and all members on matters of procedure and administration, and I capture the decisions of the committee.

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Perhaps I could offer a friendly idea in which the government members might come to their senses over the break week, and I would move to adjourn this debate.

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

I'm sorry, but there's no further discussion, so the meeting will be adjourned.

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

There's no consent, though. I still don't....

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

You can't move a motion, because we do not have any resources. We do not have interpretation.

The meeting is adjourned.