Evidence of meeting #29 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was project.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Julie Dabrusin  Minister of the Environment, Climate Change and Nature
Campbell  Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency
Shannon  Assistant Deputy Minister, Canadian Wildlife Service, Department of the Environment
McDermott  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and International Affairs Branch, Department of the Environment
Chin Quee  Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Department of the Environment
Hubbard  President, Impact Assessment Agency of Canada
Nichols  Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment

The Chair Liberal Angelo Iacono

The meeting is resumed.

The committee is resuming its review of the 2025-26 supplementary estimates (C).

The committee is meeting with the following government officials from Environment and Climate Change Canada.

Kurt Chin Quee is the assistant deputy minister and chief financial officer. Welcome.

Alison McDermott joins us. She is the assistant deputy minister, strategic policy and international affairs branch. Welcome.

Also with us is Megan Nichols, assistant deputy minister, environmental protection branch. Welcome.

We also have, from the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada, Terence Hubbard, president, and Ian Ketcheson, vice-president for indigenous relations and corporate services, and chief financial officer. Welcome.

We also have, from Parks Canada Agency, Andrew Campbell, acting president, chief executive officer and senior vice-president of transformation, and Andrew Francis, vice-president, finance. Welcome.

We are resuming the questioning of witnesses, and the Conservative Party has six minutes of speaking time.

When the witnesses see my small card, that tells them that the member has only one minute of speaking time left. If I turn it to this side and a witness is answering a question, it means that the member's speaking time is up and the witness has to finish their sentence.

Mr. Bexte, the floor is yours for six minutes.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you, Chair.

Welcome, witnesses. I appreciate your time today, and I look forward to what you have to say.

To Parks Canada, we had some discussion in the first hour about fire and fire mitigation. Could you tell me what specific changes have been introduced to the fire mitigation or fire management plans in parks like Banff, Jasper and Waterton Lakes?

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

Thank you very much for an excellent question. I'm happy to respond, Mr. Chair.

In the past year alone, Parks Canada has taken on 44 vegetation management initiatives across the country, which are—

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Excuse me, but because our time is very limited right now, very specifically, what changes have been introduced to Banff, Jasper and Waterton?

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

Do you mean just on those three parks?

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Yes. Very specifically, what did you learn from the failures at Jasper?

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

I would not talk about Jasper as failure, so I—

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

I don't care how you want to characterize that, sir. I'm sorry—

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

Mr. Chair, can I respond to the question?

Within Waterton Lakes and Banff and Jasper, we have increased, in fact, the buffer zones around each of the critical pieces of infrastructure.

In Jasper we have done mitigation efforts, and there are now approximately 2.5 kilometres of buffer zone around the town of Jasper.

Across the country, as I said, we have done 44 initiatives—

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you very much—

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

Then are there are 140 hectares at Banff—

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you very much.

Are there any specific changes or implementations in Banff? Banff hasn't burned yet. Jasper has already burned.

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

In Banff in the past year, we've done 140 hectares of wildfire risk reduction. There has also been the completion of a 74-hectare fireguard around the community of Lake Louise. There has been increased forest thinning around all of the pieces of critical infrastructure there, whether it's the Trans-Canada Highway, Atco or the CPKC. All of that work has been done in the past year. Hundreds of hectares have been further fireguarded within Banff National Park.

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Is there more work yet to be done in Banff?

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

In fire and forest mitigation, as forests continue to grow and as risks continue to grow, there is always redoing of some of the fireguarding work—

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

I appreciate that, but—

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

—so that work will continue forever.

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

More specifically, I mean urgent work that directly leads to the upcoming fire seasons and the safety of Banff and Lake Louise itself.

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

Yes. We continue to have prescribed burns within Banff this year, and we will also have some mechanical removal, particularly on the bench. There will be further fire reduction on the bench.

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you very much.

What percentage of Jasper has been rebuilt so far?

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

Approximately 50% of Jasper's housing currently has approved plans for rebuilding.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you.

Reporting in 2025 stated that the residents rebuilding are facing delays due to strict soil contamination testing and permitting. I get the soil-testing requirements, but on permitting, what accelerated permitting processes by Parks Canada are being done to allow rebuilding to happen quickly?

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

I'm happy to tell the member that there are zero outstanding permits currently existing.

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Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Very good. Thank you for that.

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Acting President and Chief Executive Officer, and Senior Vice-President of Transformation, Parks Canada Agency

Andrew Campbell

All of the soil has been remediated, we are very pleased to say, and we actually have been working with the Red Cross in putting in types of social supports for individuals—