Evidence of meeting #46 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
I don't know how to do this. Can I hear what Mr. Peterson's reason was for that?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
He doesn't have to give a reason.
I will call the question.
(Amendment negatived)
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
We are now back to debate on the motion as amended.
Is there any debate on the motion as amended?
Mr. Wallace.
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I have a question for you, first of all, just so I understand, because I want to be very clear. You have ruled what the actual motion that we are...and we've done some amendments to it, and I appreciate that. I think the motion is a little more usable now that it has been amended. But what actually shows up when we report back to the House? Does the preamble, which I believe, based on my reading, would likely have been ruled out of order, show up in the report, or how is it handled? I'd like to know how that's handled.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
As far as I know, it does not show up in the report, because I didn't read it into the record and neither did Madame Lavallée, although she did offer some commentary in support of her motion. I read the motion specifically in the English language. That is the motion that was put to the committee. That's what is going to show in the record.
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
Okay, I appreciate that.
Based on all the amendments and that the preamble is not part of the actual record, I still am not comfortable supporting the motion. Granted, it is better than it was, and I think it was better....
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
I think you mentioned a few minutes ago that when it's your turn to speak, you get a chance—right? Merci.
The issue—
Conservative
Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON
Oh, I didn't know there was a time limit.
The issue is, in the previous meeting, when Madame Lavallée brought a motion, it was very inflammatory, and I didn't get to the point....
I thought I had made an amendment to it, a new motion that would solve those issues, and I thought I had agreement from other people in the room who thought it was a good way to go, because there are other broader issues, and that is not going to stop me from bringing those broader issues back in terms of how ATI requests were blacked out by previous governments and then went to the commissioner and then went to court. I think maybe that's something we should be looking at in terms of where this is going. But I want to be clear—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
Mr. Wallace, I'm sorry, it is 11 o'clock. There is another committee. I'm going to adjourn the meeting.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
Just a minute.
Before I do, we're in the middle of a discussion on a motion as amended. I'm going to bring this on as the first item of business on Tuesday.
The meeting is adjourned.
Bloc
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
No, I have a point of order. Put your gavel away. Good! Things are improving.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
You do not have the right to end the meeting as you have just done. At a meeting of the Committee on Procedure and House Affairs held on April 19, 2005, which was chaired by Don Boudrias, and attended by Mr. Jay Hill and the Clerk, Mr. Pierre Rodrigue, it was agreed that the Chair could not unilaterally end a meeting and that an adjournment motion had to be passed by a majority vote.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
No, I don't find that a point of order. The meeting was called from nine until eleven.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel
No, I have ruled. That's the end of it. If you wish to challenge the ruling of the chair, you may do so.
Bloc
Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC
On a point of order. I challenge the Chair's decision and I would ask that this be put to a vote.
