Evidence of meeting #46 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Jenkin  Co-Chair, Consumer Measures Committee, Department of Industry
David Clarke  Co-Chair, Identity Theft Working Group, Consumer Measures Committee, Department of Industry
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Richard Rumas
Nancy Holmes  Committee Researcher

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

No.

Just on the point of common sense, although I suppose common sense is debatable, suppose each member of this committee submitted a motion and there were eleven motions as item two, and we had item one. It can't be common sense that we have to deal with all of those items in a two-hour period.

Anyway, if you'd like to make that motion, go ahead.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Chairman, with all due respect for our guests, I would like to move a motion. I move that we change the agenda and deal with the motions immediately. Once again, I apologize to our guests but, since I don't have a choice, I am going to do this now.

That is my motion, Mr. Chairman.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

The motion is that the committee move to other business.

Mr. Wallace.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair--

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

We can debate it.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

--I just want to know what happens to the witnesses.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

If what?

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

If her motion passes. Are they done for the day?

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

We thank them very much and we excuse them--or we ask them to wait just in case it doesn't take us particularly long to deal with item two. That's also a possible option. I hate to bring witnesses here, have them prepped and ready to go, and then not make use of their expertise.

However, there's no discussion; I've answered the question. This is a motion and I'm going to call the vote.

I want a roll call vote.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

The motion passes. We move to other business.

I'm going to ask the witnesses just to wait for a few minutes. We'll see how things go. We may be able to get through this. If it appears to me that it's going to drag on, then I'll excuse you.

I do apologize. These things happen. They're no reflection on you or your evidence, of course. So just grab a coffee, relax, whatever the case may be.

Mr. Martin.

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

On a point of order, Mr. Chairman, I have a question about the order of the next item of business. I understand—at least from my experience in previous committees—that notices of motion are dealt with in the order in which they are received.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

I believe that's true.

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I understood that Ms. Lavallée's motion was in first and that Mr. Wallace's was only submitted on May 8, I believe.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

My understanding is that Madame Lavallée withdrew her first motion. Mr. Wallace submitted a motion subsequent to that, and Madame Lavallée submitted a redrafted version of her motion. That's how I understand it.

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I see. Thank you.

That was my only point.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

I think your statement, however, is correct. We deal with them in the order they're received, assuming the movers want to move them.

Madame Lavallée, you have a point of order.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Chairman, you are absolutely right. I changed my motion because the members opposite believed—incorrectly, of course—that it was not in order because it presented the rationale. So, I changed it to be certain that no one would think that.

That said, I would like to move that the order for dealing with the motions be reversed. That would mean we would vote on my motion before Mr. Wallace's.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

No. How can that be? Is that legal?

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

So you're proposing that we deal with your motion before we deal with Mr. Wallace's motion?

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Exactly. I want to change the agenda. In order to do that, we will have to put this to a vote, as we just did.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

That motion has been moved. It's in order, I presume. So we'll have the same vote, I guess. Call it out.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Is that debatable at all?

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

It's debatable, if you wish to—

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Yes, I'd like to debate that.

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

Mr. Wallace.