Evidence of meeting #14 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mulroney.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Luc Lavoie  As an Individual
François Martin  As an Individual
Erica Pereira  Committee Clerk, , House of Commons

5:15 p.m.

As an Individual

François Martin

That's false.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

All right.

So you knew that that had been written, but that it was false.

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As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

According to what was said, you stated that Mrs. Mulroney had given you envelopes containing cash so that you would deposit them at the Bank of Montreal branch on Wellington Street in Ottawa.

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As an Individual

François Martin

It was one envelope.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

It was only one envelope?

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As an Individual

François Martin

Yes, it contained $10,000.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

When those things were said about you, did you tell someone that it wasn't true, that what was being told was false?

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As an Individual

François Martin

What do you mean by “tell someone”?

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Someone in your circle.

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As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

So you said it to people in your circle?

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As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Were your relations—

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As an Individual

François Martin

Did I challenge that article? No.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Did you talk about it with the Mulroney family?

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As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Did you let those people know that things were attributed to you that you did not say?

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As an Individual

François Martin

No. I was big enough to defend myself.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

And how did you defend yourself against those lies?

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As an Individual

François Martin

There is absolutely no point in me hearing... People can say anything. They report anything. On Saturday, in the Journal de Montréal, they said that Mrs. Mulroney and I didn't have good relations, which is totally false. We had a very good relationship. There's no end to it.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Since this committee has been sitting and you've known that you were summoned, have people contacted you to check the testimony you were going to give?

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As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

No one contacted you?

5:15 p.m.

As an Individual

François Martin

A number of journalists from newspapers such as La Presse and the Globe and Mail telephoned me before I was contacted to testify. I never returned their calls.