Evidence of meeting #14 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mulroney.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Luc Lavoie  As an Individual
François Martin  As an Individual
Erica Pereira  Committee Clerk, , House of Commons

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

No reference was ever made to countries, but rather to international sales.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

But you heard. It would have been China and France. As regards China, I would point out to you that we're talking about five years after Tiananmen Square and the image, one of the most important of the century, that will remain with us of that student in front of the armoured vehicles, which weren't light armoured vehicles, but all the same.

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

That's one of the most shocking and most striking images of the twentieth century; I agree with you.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

And one of the most admirable as well.

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

And one of the most admirable.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

France is generally quite jealous and proud of its technologies.

It destroyed the accounting, which it claims to have kept, when Mr. Schreiber was arrested. It was at that time that he wanted to resolve these tax matters. It was a number of years after being exonerated by [Inaudible - Editor]. He was in such a hurry that he even paid tax on the expenses he could have deducted as part of his mandate.

Mr. Lavoie, do you believe that agency contract with Mr. Schreiber in fact existed?

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

I rely on his word.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

That will be your last question.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I would say that does you credit. You don't say yes, and you keep your credibility. There are nos that are answers.

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

I also admire your permanent metaphysical doubt.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

It's not metaphysical. I believe most people think that way.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you kindly.

Mr. Hiebert, please.

February 7th, 2008 / 4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Lavoie, my colleague asked you earlier if you had any knowledge about certain decisions or certain projects while you were in the PMO. I want to broaden that question a little bit and expand it. At any point, whether you were working in the PMO or since that time, when you were working as a consultant for Mr. Mulroney, did you have any knowledge of any wrongdoing by any public official with respect to Bear Head—at any point?

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Okay. Did you have any knowledge of any wrongdoing by any public official at any point in your career with respect to Airbus?

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

I have to ask the same question with respect to the consulting agreement between Mr. Mulroney and Mr. Schreiber. Do you know of any wrongdoing there?

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

So you're telling us you don't know of any wrongdoing by anyone with respect to any of these matters, and that's the extent of your testimony?

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

That's correct.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Okay.

Mr. Chair, we have no further questions.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you kindly.

Mr. Martin.

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Chair, I will share my time with Mr. Mulcair.

You were instrumental in relieving Canadians of $2.1 million, no matter how you cut it, and $600,000 were your fees. I don't know a lot about the public relations business, but that seems like a staggering amount of money to make in 18 months. Even if you were working full time, it's a whole whack of dough.

I want to correct you on the tone you put on when we say the Government of Canada probably wouldn't have settled if they'd known what you knew all along. If you had been more forthcoming—

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Luc Lavoie

No, I didn't know all along.

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

You said you knew Mr. Mulroney had a business relationship with Mr. Schreiber.