Before I answer the question, I'd like to go back to the first one, which was whether there are inspiring examples elsewhere in the world.
I agree that no legislation is necessarily perfect. But to come back to the American example, I think the definition of lobbying adopted by the American legislator seems quite relevant. It includes preparation, strategic advice and calls that aren't strictly lobbying within the meaning of our act, but that fall under this idea of influence.
In fact, people are very cynical when they see a former minister leaving his duties, and becoming a strategic advisor, and not a lobbyist, with a consulting firm the next day. While I'm not saying that the American model is the model to use, when it comes to the definition of lobbying, I think there's something very interesting in that model.
To come back to the question about ethical lobbying compared with non-ethical lobbying, I think there's a significant risk of deviation. I think the Canadian legislation needs to build on transparency. We will get to that stage when we are truly transparent, especially when it comes to ethical and non-ethical activities. In that respect, saying that certain activities from charity or community organizations don't need to be registered because they're obviously ethical may result in some deviation. I think transparency must prevail.