I would like to take matters further. Section 68.1 of the Access to Information Act, which allows for the exclusion of information disclosure and required responses, focuses especially on matters related to information, and creative and programming activities. Information basically means journalistic activities. You have often heard from journalists' associations that talked about their professional issues at various hearings you have held. We do not know what the requests are and what objections CBC has.
If we're talking about journalistic activities, that is, notes taken by a journalist, recordings or full interviews, do you not feel that would be a strong enough reason for CBC not to disclose information related to journalistic activities of another entity or, even more so, of a competitor?