I can't speculate and speak for other departments and their experiences, but I can tell you that in normal times—and even in COVID times—when elucidating a new program or a new policy, it is very normal that there are a number of perspectives brought into consideration. That includes research that perhaps the Department of Finance will do or the department will do. That will be opinions of a minister's office and exempt staff. That will be people from the outside, such as leaders in thought.
Quite frankly, all of those are brought in to bear. However, the advice we will decide on—certainly when I myself send something up the line to my deputy and my minister—takes all that into account, and the advice I give is my advice.