Evidence of meeting #61 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was interference.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gabrielle Lim  Doctoral Fellow, Citizen Lab, Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Cheuk Kwan  Co-Chair, Toronto Association for Democracy in China
Mehmet Tohti  Executive Director, Uyghur Rights Advocacy Project
Bill Chu  Spokesperson, Chinese Canadian Concern Group on the Chinese Communist Party’s Human Rights Violation
Ai-Men Lau  Advisor, Alliance Canada Hong Kong
Cherie Wong  Executive Director, Alliance Canada Hong Kong

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay.

Go ahead, Mike.

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Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Will it be one more meeting following that meeting, or one more meeting after today?

I'm still unclear on that point.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

You see, that's the problem I'm having, because I can't commit to the 24th.

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Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

No, no, I appreciate that.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

So, if we're going to have this, then we're going to have to have it on the 31st.

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Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Sorry, Mr. Chair, what was the initial motion? It prescribed six?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Yes.

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Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Okay. We're good. We can take the other stuff, the broader discussion, to a future meeting or a subcommittee.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

In the original motion there were six meetings for the foreign interference study. Today was the start of that. If you recall, the work plan was that we were going to deal with foreign interference every Friday for the next five weeks. The 24th, I don't believe is possible to include that. That would likely mean that if we were to do this on the 31st, we would have two more meetings on this. However, I would subject that to any discussion that we have at subcommittee at this point.

That's the problem I'm running into.

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Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I don't want to drag this out. I'm sorry. This is a genuine question.

I just thought that when we had talked about it, there were informal discussions where we had talked about not wanting to duplicate the efforts of other committees, so chances are it's not going to run out the whole six.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

It may not. Where this discussion has to happen is at subcommittee. That's the direction I would want to take with this. I'm not even sure at this point. Again, it's subject to subcommittee. We may in fact take the 24th meeting and have that on a different subject. If we're not able to have it.... I don't know at this point.

Mr. Villemure, you have the floor.

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Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

We had asked for and agreed on six meetings. We had agreed not to do any duplicate work, and so far I don't think we have done any. Proposing that Mr. Glucksmann appear is not duplication of work either.

It is difficult to determine whether there will be one, two or three meetings. I, for one, respect the fact that we should avoid duplication of work. However, our committee can approach the subject from a different angle than the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, and I want to see that happen.

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Liberal

Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Could we ask the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, where you have a majority, to discuss the motion?

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Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

I request the vote.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

All right.

The motion has been made and it is in order. It's clear to me as chair that we don't have unanimous consent.

I therefore move that we proceed to a vote.

Madam Clerk, would you take the vote on the motion that was presented.

I'll remind committee as well that this witness is scheduled to appear. He is on the list. It's just the one hour and very specific dates. That's what directs this.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 8; nays 0)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

The motion does carry. I will take the advice of Mr. Fergus and call a subcommittee meeting so that we can discuss this further. Leave it at my discretion to work with the clerk on when this particular witness will come. We will accommodate the motion that has just passed.

That's it. Have a great break week. Enjoy time with your family, everyone.

Thank you to the analysts, and thank you to the clerk and all the technicians in the room.

I especially want to thank my wife, who is here today.

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Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

She has been here this week, looking after me with my bad back: Thank you.

The meeting is adjourned.