Evidence of meeting #48 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was businesses.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Hanley  Senior Vice President, Public Affairs, Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

We're now on the amendment of Ms. Chagger, which was proposed on Monday, May 25. I'm not going to read it. I think all members have it.

Is there any discussion on the amendment? Seeing no discussion on the amendment, do we have unanimous consent to accept the amendment?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

They would like a recorded division.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

The amendment is adopted. We're on the main motion as amended.

Mr. Barrett, go ahead on the main motion as amended.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

Chair, I'd like to move that the motion be amended in part d) by replacing “Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner” with “appropriate officials from the Privy Council Office”.

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Would you like to have Mr. Cooper amend the motion, because it is your motion?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

It was actually his idea.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

That's what you're intending to do. Is that correct? Yes.

Mr. Cooper, because it was your idea, I'm going to ask that you amend the motion. If you want to make it similar to what Mr. Barrett proposed, I would certainly accept that.

Go ahead.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

The amendment is that the motion be amended in part d) by replacing “Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner” with “appropriate officials from the Privy Council Office”.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I think that's a fairly simple amendment. Is there any discussion on the amendment? I don't see any.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The amendment is defeated. We're now back on the main motion as amended. Is there any other discussion on that?

Go ahead, Mr. Barrett.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

I wonder if colleagues would give any consideration to removing part d). While I'm not able to move that amendment, I would like a further discussion of that potentiality.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I can't accept that. If somebody wants to move that motion—

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

It's just for discussion.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

You can—

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

I move that the motion be amended by deleting part d).

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Cooper's amendment is that the motion be amended by deleting part d). If you want to have a discussion, now would be the time.

I have Mr. Barrett on Mr. Cooper's amendment.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

I'm satisfied with the outcome of the discussion.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay. That's great.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're on the main motion as amended.

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

On a point of order, perhaps, Chair, you can confer with the clerk. When something's been added and it has been adopted, it cannot be removed. Can it be removed? That was part of the amendment that was added. It feels like that should have been out of order.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

It was defeated.

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

I would like to know the rules so that I can follow them.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Madam Clerk, if you want to clarify that, go ahead. If I erred in judgment, notwithstanding the fact that it was defeated, I'll accept responsibility for that.

Go ahead, Madam Clerk, if you want to give an explanation.

The Clerk

You're right. Technically, when something is adopted, the committee cannot come back to its own decision. If there's unanimous consent and people agree, you can go with it.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I didn't see any objection at the beginning of that, so I accepted it, but I accept responsibility for that.

We're on the main motion as amended. Is there any other discussion on the main motion as amended? Seeing none, we're going to a vote.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON

Try to pass it unanimously. That was suggested earlier.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I'm going to a vote on this, Mr. Barrett.

Let's go to the vote on the main motion as amended.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

I have no other business. We'll see you all on Thursday.

The meeting is adjourned.