Evidence of meeting #55 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gérard Lalonde  Director, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

No, I think he was interrupting.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No, he's doesn't have a point.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

No, I withdraw it. Let's vote.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

All right.

Mr. McKay.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Actually, if we're just dealing with that issue, all I would do is support my colleague.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

That's what we are doing.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

But there is another point I want to make further on.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Is there? Okay, but not on this specific amendment, Mr. McKay?

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Not on this specific one.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Okay.

On the amendment, you're all ready for the vote then, yes?

(Amendment negatived)

(Clauses 21 and 22 agreed to on division)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Mr. McKay, I'm sorry, but your question was pertaining to which clause?

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

It's on page 72, the post-secondary textbook credit. I just wanted the official to march me through this.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Which clause, Mr. McKay?

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

It's proposed subsection 118.6(2.1), which refers to A and B and “A x B”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Okay, good.

We have an amendment proposed on that from the Liberal Party.

I'll just verify, first, have we carried clause 22, or did I interrupt the proceedings to make sure Mr. McKay didn't have a question on that? Do you recall?

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A voice

Clause 22 carried.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Clause 22 was carried, okay.

Mr. McKay, we do have Liberal amendment 4.

Mr. Pacetti—

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Let him speak to the amendment first and then I'll—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

And then your question may pertain to that, I believe?

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Mr. Pacetti, would you like to speak to Liberal amendment 4?

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Yes, it's straightforward. I think the amount in the original bill was $100. All we're asking is to change it to $200. It's based on a monthly credit. Most students go to school full-time for a maximum, I would imagine, of 10 months. So on the original amount, it would be 10 months times $100, which would be $1,000 at a 15% tax rate, therefore only giving students $150. And that would obviously only give them the $150 the year after they'd spent the money, and not necessarily in the month they incurred the expense. So all I'm trying to do here is to make this deduction, which is actually a credit, useful by doubling the amount from $100 to $200 so that the—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Mr. Pacetti, it's $65 in the bill now.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

No, $65 is for part-time students.

Sorry, it's $65, so it's even less. We're trying to make it so that students get at least $300 or $400 of actual money in their pocket after all the money they—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

So you're taking it from $65 to $200 in your amendment?