I'm not familiar with the specific testimony that you referred to. I can say, generally speaking, that all around the world they've looked at programs to try to get rid of high-polluting vehicles. Here in Canada, the government came down on the side of one simple $300-program aimed primarily at 1995 vehicles. Anybody who's retired a vehicle under the current Canadian program would get that money from the Government of Canada. However, there are also a number of provincial initiatives that exist, such as a $1,500 program in the province of British Columbia.
