Evidence of meeting #46 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was montreal.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Raymond Gouin  Executive Officer, Conseil québécois des entreprises adaptées
Bernard Brun  Director, Government Relations, Desjardins Group
Yves-Thomas Dorval  President and Chief Executive Officer, Quebec Employers' Council
Michael Toye  Executive Director, Canadian Community Economic Development Network
Ryan Gibson  Board President, Canadian Community Economic Development Network
Lauren Ravon  Director of Policy and Campaigns, Oxfam Canada
Valérie Roy  General Manager, Regroupement québécois des organismes pour le développement de l'employabilité
André Nepton  Coordinator, Agence interrégionale de développement des technologies de l'information et des communications
Yves Servais  Director General, Association des marchands dépanneurs et épiciers du Québec
Michel Leblanc  President and Chief Executive Officer, Chamber of Commerce of Metropolitan Montreal
Pierre Gaudreau  Coordinator, Réseau d'aide aux personnes seules et itinérantes de Montréal (RAPSIM)
Pierre Lemieux  Second General Vice-President, Union des producteurs agricoles
Cédrik Chouinard  As an Individual

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think everyone is here. In any event, I'll call the meeting to order.

As all witnesses know, this is the Standing Committee on Finance. Pursuant to Standing Order 83.1, we are doing consultations in advance of the 2017 budget.

The theme we're trying to work toward is what we have to do to achieve better economic growth in this country.

Welcome to the witnesses.

Usually when we have a new panel, because we don't expect all the witnesses to know all the MPs, I ask the MPs to introduce themselves. We'll start with Mr. Godin, who's the closest local MP.

Joël, you can introduce yourself, and then we'll go around the room and introduce the other MPs.

9 a.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I am going to speak in French since the majority of people in Quebec City are francophone.

My name is Joël Godin, and I represent the riding of Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, just north of Quebec City, basically everything between Sainte-Brigitte-de-Laval and Rivière-à-Pierre. The riding runs along the river from Deschambault-Grondines to Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures. It's a large district, and that is especially noticeable on weekends.

I left Ottawa yesterday to be here today. Tomorrow, I will have the privilege of meeting with the constituents in my riding. It's an extra day. No matter, I'm glad the committee is here, in Quebec City.

I would like to thank the participants for taking part in this exercise. It will help us better represent you and do our jobs as parliamentarians. We always strive to improve Canadians' quality of life.

Welcome to Quebec City. I'm delighted to be back home.

Thank you and have a good day.

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Dan.

9 a.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Good morning. I am the member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola. The Okanogan is in British Columbia's interior.

I'm very pleased to be with you.

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Pierre-Luc.

9 a.m.

NDP

Pierre-Luc Dusseault NDP Sherbrooke, QC

My name is Pierre-Luc Dusseault, and I represent the riding of Sherbrooke, which, as you know, is in the Eastern Townships. It's a pleasure to see you all here, in Quebec City, and to be here myself.

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Francesco.

9 a.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Good morning everyone. My name is Francesco Sorbara, and I am the member for Vaughan—Woodbridge.

It's nice to be here. I've never been to Quebec City. This is my first time. It's a beautiful city in la belle province. Welcome. Thank you.

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mr. McKinnon.

9 a.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Good morning and welcome to the Standing Committee on Finance.

My name is Steven MacKinnon, and I represent the riding of Gatineau. It's an easier name to remember than that of Mr. Albas's riding.

Like Mr. Godin, I want to thank you for taking part in this exercise. It's important that we hear the views of Quebecers. We've just come from the Maritimes. It's a pleasure to be back in my home province.

9 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you, all.

I'm Wayne Easter, member of Parliament for Malpeque, Prince Edward Island, which is the riding between Charlottetown and Summerside.

Welcome all. If people could hold their presentations to about five minutes, we'll have more time for questions.

We will start with the Conseil québécois des entreprises adaptées, Mr. Gouin and Ms. Brisson.

9 a.m.

Raymond Gouin Executive Officer, Conseil québécois des entreprises adaptées

Thank you and good morning.

Mr. Chair, ladies and gentlemen of the committee, thank you for having us this morning.

The Conseil québécois des entreprises adaptées would like to share with you what adapted enterprises all over Quebec are doing to help people with disabilities contribute to the country's economic growth. We would especially like you to understand the importance and value of supporting us so that we can do even more.

Right off the bat, I'd like to make a minor correction to our brief. It should have referred to the Canada-Québec Labour Market Agreement for Persons with Disabilities rather than the Canada-Quebec Agreement on the Labour Market for People with Disabilities, which is the former name. I just wanted to start by pointing that out.

The network of adapted enterprises in Quebec has a unique mission, promoting the creation of adapted jobs for persons with disabilities in quality workplaces. It is one of the largest networks of social economy enterprises in Quebec, with 43 adapted enterprises active in 59 different business locations across the province. It is also the largest employer of persons with disabilities in Quebec and Canada, with nearly 4, 000 jobs held by persons with disabilities. Adapted enterprises generate more than $225 million in total annual revenues and $140 million in salaries. They provide more than 200 quality products and services in a wide range of sectors. They are well-known companies, including Desjardins, Hydro-Québec, Loto-Québec, Vidéotron, and Gaz Métro. The network of adapted enterprises represents 40 years of history, recognition, and respect. It is a unique model in Canada that could be applied to the entire country.

These 43 adapted enterprises receive financial assistance through the Programme de subventions aux entreprises adaptées, or PSEA, a subsidy program for adapted enterprises that compensates for the low productivity of the disabled people they hire. They are people living with severe functional limitations who, although able to be productive, cannot compete in a regular work environment.

The PSEA budget for 2016-17 is $80.5 million, and is partly funded through the Canada-Québec Labour Market Agreement and the Canada-Québec Labour Market Agreement for Persons with Disabilities. Unfortunately, the federal government has not increased the budget for the Canada-Québec Labour Market Agreement for Persons with Disabilities for more than 10 years.

The economist Pierre Fortin, who has studied adapted enterprises, has repeatedly said that government investments in Quebec's adapted enterprises are both economically and socially sound.

These investments are economically beneficial because they result in significant social assistance savings for the government, given that the vast majority of persons with disabilities employed by adapted enterprises would be receiving social assistance or employment insurance benefits if they were not working. Of course, they also generate considerable sales tax and income tax revenues, because workers with disabilities have significantly higher net incomes and enhance the economic activities of the adapted enterprises.

In our view, the PSEA funds itself.

The program's social benefits stem mainly from the fact that it does much more than simply facilitate the creation of workplaces. It facilitates the creation of living environments where people with disabilities are not marginalized. Quite the contrary, they receive guidance, support, and training from the adapted enterprises, bringing new meaning to their lives.

The Government of Canada has clearly expressed its desire to reduce poverty, remove systemic barriers, and ensure persons with disabilities all over the country have access to equal opportunities. That is something Prime Minister Trudeau has said often. Getting there will take a lot of work.

We believe that Quebec's model of an adapted enterprise network could be part of the solution. The Government of Canada should enhance its support for our model so that more people with disabilities can integrate into the labour market and retain employment. That will help them contribute to society, come out of isolation, break their financial dependence, fulfill a meaningful role, participate in their community's development, thrive, and become full-fledged citizens.

In order to make that happen, we recommend that the Government of Canada increase its contribution to the Canada-Québec Labour Market Agreement for Persons with Disabilities beginning in 2017-18 and that the additional funding be specifically allocated to Quebec's adapted enterprises.

Thank you.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you very much.

I might mention to witnesses, as well, that you'll see members looking at their iPads. We've had all the briefs translated and downloaded to our iPads, so that's what people are looking at. They're not playing games.

Next is Mr. Brun with the Desjardins group, Mr. Brun.

9:10 a.m.

Bernard Brun Director, Government Relations, Desjardins Group

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

My name is Bernard Brun, and I'm here on behalf of Desjardins Group.

I'd like to thank the committee for the opportunity to share our input today and contribute to the prebudget consultations in advance of the 2017 federal budget.

It is especially lovely for us to be here, in Quebec City, given the tremendously important role of Desjardins among financial institutions and services in the capital and around the province.

Desjardins Group is the country's leading financial co-operative group, and the sixth in the world. Today, its assets total more than $260 billion, and it has some 47,000 employees working to serve seven million members and clients.

The Bloomberg news agency ranked Desjardins Group as the most solid financial institution in North America, with some of the best capital ratios and credit ratings in the industry.

I am going to pick up on some of the elements contained in our previous brief to the committee.

In particular, I want to highlight the distinct co-operative dimension that sets Desjardins Group apart from other financial institutions, as well as the regulatory impacts and issues it gives rise to at the provincial and federal levels.

Financial co-operatives differ from traditional banks by virtue of their mission and their democratic structure. Because of this special relationship with members, we can attest to the fact that, in addition to contributing to Canada's financial system, financial co-operatives represent an additional vector of economic stability and regional prosperity. For example, 30% of Desjardins Group's points of service are located in sparsely populated areas, with fewer than 2,000 inhabitants.

That brings me to my first point.

We would like to stress to the committee members the importance of consistent rules governing financial institutions.

Quebec's provincial regulator, the Autorité des marchés financiers, designated Desjardins Group a domestic systemically important financial institution. At the end of the day, Desjardins Group is a leader in Quebec and Canada alike. The rules that governments put in place, particularly at the federal level, affect all financial institutions no matter where they are headquartered, as well as the taxpayers and citizens they serve.

We are asking committee members and the government to recognize that any measures governing financial institutions must be adapted to the co-operative model, which is clearly not the prevailing model in the financial institution industry. That is especially important in light of the federal government's current review of the regulatory framework governing financial institutions.

The second point I'd like to discuss, which relates more to the economy, is a hot topic right now and one that concerns many in the government and financial sector. I am talking about household debt and the measures related to the housing market.

It is fair to say that household debt is worrisome on a number of levels. Steps must be taken. Just recently, the federal finance minister announced that measures would be put in place. Despite being well-received, these measures will have a clear impact on access to housing; the extent of that impact, however, is still not fully known.

Regional disparities exist within the housing market, particularly in a country like Canada. It is important to keep that in mind, and I urge the committee members to consider that element carefully. Educating the government on this point is key. It is not advisable to introduce uniform standards across the country, given that the overheated market is limited to certain geographic areas and certain types of housing.

Furthermore, it is recommended that the government take a step back in order to fully assess the impact of the recently introduced measures before proposing new ones.

Addressing household debt through the financial sector requires a very delicate hand given the interrelationship with economic growth and interest rates. The government must exercise the utmost caution in its cost-benefit analysis in order to achieve a so-called smooth landing for the entire Canadian economy.

I would just like to wrap up by, once again, urging the government to fully recognize the characteristics, specific needs, and benefits of the financial co-operative system. The government must also recognize that Desjardins Group and the rest of the country's financial co-operatives are an important and integral part of the Canadian financial system and that the rules need to be adapted accordingly.

Thank you.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you very much, Mr. Brun.

We'll turn now to Mr. Dorval and Mr. Laplatte from the Quebec Employers Council.

The floor is yours.

9:15 a.m.

Yves-Thomas Dorval President and Chief Executive Officer, Quebec Employers' Council

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to the committee members for inviting us today and listening to what we have to say. We very much appreciate the opportunity. Given how quickly five minutes goes by, I'm going to get right to the heart of the matter. My apologies to the interpreters, but I am going to speak quickly.

The Quebec Employers Council, or CPQ, brings together employers active in Quebec and elsewhere.

We directly represent more than 70,000 employers, who are not just companies, but also associations. I have a conflict of interest I should tell you about. Some of the people sitting at the table are members of the CPQ, including the Conseil québécois des entreprises adaptées and Desjardins Group. We also have partners who belong to the Regroupement québécois des organismes pour le développement de l’employabilité.

Our involvement extends to all areas. The employers we represent are mainly private companies, but we also represent employers in the community, social economy, public, and semi-public sectors.

I'm going to go right to our concerns. You talked about economic growth, which is key not just to businesses, but also to the quality of life of all citizens. There is a reason we have an inclusive prosperity program that recognizes the value of businesses, influences employment, and affects the quality of life and standard of living of the entire population.

From an economic standpoint, it is clear that exports are crucial not only to achieve a positive trade balance, but also to raise the standard of living of the country's 36 million inhabitants and contribute to their development.

Exports depend on a number of elements. Similar to its predecessors, the current government is taking a close look at free trade agreements. It is doing so, however, against the backdrop of growing protectionism, an issue that concerns us.

In terms of financial and fiscal policies, we recommend that the government invest in strategic levers to foster economic growth among our employers and businesses. Those levers include innovation. In order to be able to export, it is necessary to be competitive. We have no choice. We aren't a country of a billion or 500 million people but, rather, 36 million. We have to become more competitive, and that means being more innovative.

Innovation has three dimensions.

Let's talk about products and services, an area in which innovation is crucial. We spend a lot of money on research and development. We are world leaders when it comes to publications and clean technologies, for instance, but we rank last when it comes to patents and the commercialization of clean technologies. The reason I mention that example is to underscore the difference between research and development and innovation.

First and foremost, innovation is the development of products and services. It also involves manufacturing processes, not to mention emerging issues of global concern such as greenhouse gas reduction. If we want to become more competitive and improve our growth and export potential, we need to help businesses and employers innovate in the three areas I just mentioned.

Private investment in Canada is low. That is especially true in Quebec. It is therefore necessary to find ways to attract investment. That means not just having sound free trade agreements in place, like the one with Europe—which will facilitate the mobility of capital—but also being able to attract capital here. To do that, we need to create a competitive and appealing tax environment and regulatory framework. I'm not talking about creating tax havens in Canada. Instead, I am talking about building an environment that appeals to investors because it offers predictable and competitive conditions. In terms of fiscal policy, it's important to have an environment that attracts investors to Quebec.

I am going to go beyond the issue of investment.

There is much talk of immigration these days. In Quebec, a study was released on the impact of economic immigration. It focused on programs affecting growth, in other words, programs that attract immigrant investors and entrepreneurs. Unfortunately, the federal government has shown less interest in these types of programs, essential programs for Quebec. We have to attract private investors.

Productivity is another factor in promoting growth, exports, and competitiveness. We have to make sure our businesses and employers are productive, and that requires investment decisions.

Our economic fabric is made up primarily of small and medium-sized businesses. When business leaders consider whether or not to make an investment, they look at how much the return on investment will be and how long it will take to achieve.

To support business leaders in making wise investment decisions that will improve their productivity or even reduce their greenhouse gas emissions, the government needs to provide incentives. It needs to provide support that will close the gap between investing in traditional technologies and investing in productivity-enhancing or GHG-reducing technologies. That is a key consideration. There are people around the table today who will talk to you about human capital. Nonetheless, in order to be productive, human capital has to be available.

A large number of federal and provincial transfer programs are based on employment insurance programs. Many people, however, do not have access to employment insurance. They include recent immigrants, persons with disabilities coming onto the labour market, students who have just finished university, or those who still have a job. Productivity-wise, it's important to help these people. Given that the population is aging rapidly, we need transfers that assist individuals who don't have access to employment insurance benefits, in order to foster productivity.

The government implemented an infrastructure program. We believe infrastructure is incredibly important, but the program should include facilities under federal jurisdiction as well. It is crucial that we increase investment in infrastructure under federal responsibility such as our ports, airports, railway system, and all related infrastructure. Central Canada comes to mind and the need for quicker and more frequent passenger rail service in the Quebec City-Windsor corridor.

I'd like to conclude by talking about taxation and the budget. As you know, the Quebec Employers Council normally views deficits as worrisome. It isn't so bad when deficits are backed by investments in infrastructure and strategic economic levers. What we have a problem with are deficits tied to program spending.

We developed a concept we call “detent”—or stop and review, if you will—that the Quebec government has implemented. We urge the federal government to consider our homegrown concept. Essentially, this is how it works. When new spending programs are introduced, the government looks at whether it can reduce spending on other lower priority programs, to maintain a balance and prevent program spending deficits that are not asset-backed.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you, Mr. Dorval.

We'll turn now to Mr. Toye from the Canadian Community Economic Development Network.

9:20 a.m.

Michael Toye Executive Director, Canadian Community Economic Development Network

Thank you for the opportunity to present today, honourable Chair and members.

The Canadian Community Economic Development Network is a national association of community organizations, co-operatives, credit unions, foundations, municipalities, and citizens working to enhance the social, economic, and environmental conditions of Canada's communities. We have members in all regions of Canada, including urban, rural, northern, and aboriginal settings.

Among our members are Fresh Outlook Foundation, in Kelowna, in Mr. Albas's neck of the woods, SEED Winnipeg, which appeared before the committee two weeks ago in Winnipeg, and the Corporation de développement économique communautaire de Québec, just a few blocks from here. I am very encouraged by the interests being represented today. It may not be all that surprising given that the committee is in Quebec, a world leader in the social economy. In any case, the diverse group of voices represented is very encouraging.

Our members are community leaders in moving towards an equitable, inclusive, and sustainable economy that better serves traditionally disadvantaged people and communities. Recent trends in social economy, social finance, and community resiliency reflect the growing range of alternatives that are expanding the scope of innovative community practices tremendously, with examples ranging from new crowdfunding strategies to impact investing, from Quebec's 2013 social economy law to the United Nations Inter-Agency Task Force on Social and Solidarity Economy.

An economy with broader ownership and greater citizen engagement

as Mr. Brun, of Desjardins Group, mentioned,

serves everyone better. Here are a few examples to illustrate the recommendations in our brief.

Many of you probably saw headlines last week about the innovative indigenous-led solution to drinking water problems in northern Ontario communities. The solution, in fact, is disarmingly simple. Train the people who live there to maintain and run their own water systems. It creates local jobs and provides better results. It's community economic development.

Indigenous-led co-operatives and social enterprises, whose mission is to create jobs and improve communities, can make a real difference. Aki Energy, a Winnipeg-based social enterprise, has run a very effective pilot program to train people on four first nations to install and maintain geothermal heating systems, reducing energy costs and financed with an innovative pay-as-you-save program through Manitoba Hydro. However, the program can't be expanded because of a regulatory snag related to the use of Indigenous and Northern Affairs funding. Modernization of support for indigenous innovation can channel energy into exciting opportunities for a new path forward.

I'm now going to pass things to our board chair, Ryan Gibson.

October 20th, 2016 / 9:25 a.m.

Ryan Gibson Board President, Canadian Community Economic Development Network

This summer the government announced its inclusive innovation agenda, and we're pleased to see that the objectives included making Canada a leader in promoting social enterprise. On that topic, I wish to recognize the report published last year by the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities under the chairing of Mr. McColeman, which remains an extremely valuable road map for social finance and social enterprise in Canada.

We applaud Innovation, Science and Economic Development's recent creation of a directory of Canadian social enterprises and the definition they have established for that. Now specific measures related to social procurement and community benefit agreements, in addition to what is proposed in Bill C-227, could go a long way to creating a more favourable environment for social enterprises to develop, but our primary recommendation is to level the playing field for social enterprises when it comes to access to business development programs.

We strongly encourage the government to expand the capacity and access to existing SME services through the Canada Business Network and to other federal business development programs to enhance business supports and readiness for investment by social enterprises, co-operatives, and non-profits. This should be coupled with an awareness-raising effort for government officials to ensure a level playing field for alternative forms of incorporation.

The transition to a clean, low-carbon economy offers excellent local investment opportunities for urban, rural, and remote communities to enhance their resilience and contribute to economic growth that distributes socio-economic benefits. Community-based projects inspire a new kind of social entrepreneurship, building a strong social licence for clean technologies and empowering local citizens, especially indigenous peoples, with the opportunity to reinvest clean energy project returns into local infrastructure, education, and health. This would involve including criteria in new infrastructure investment that prioritize funding for clean energy projects in communities vulnerable to climate change and making affordable financing available to communities and project developers through the Canada infrastructure bank, including federal loan guarantees.

The Prime Minister's mandate letters instructed ministers Duclos and Mihychuk to develop a national strategy on social innovation and social finance. At the Global Social Economy Forum in Montreal last month, Minister Duclos announced the creation of a steering committee to guide that strategy. This is an excellent and essential first step. In dynamic, emerging fields like social innovation, an approach often called co-construction here in Quebec is the only way it can work. We encourage the government to adequately resource the development of the strategy and the sector partners that are required to participate in a meaningful dialogue.

It's fitting that this is the week of co-operatives and that we're sitting here talking about these initiatives.

Thank you very much.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you very much.

From Oxfam Canada, we have Ms. Ravon.

9:30 a.m.

Lauren Ravon Director of Policy and Campaigns, Oxfam Canada

Thank you.

I will be giving my presentation in English but would be happy to answer any questions in French.

As some of you may know, Oxfam is an international confederation working in 90 countries to support long-term development and to provide humanitarian assistance in times of crisis. We also do advocacy and campaigns to address the root causes of poverty. We put women's rights and gender justice at the heart of everything we do, both here in Canada and in some of the poorest communities around the planet.

Many of these communities have made great progress in the struggle against poverty, but this progress is being threatened by rising inequality. Money, power, and opportunities are concentrated in the hands of the few at the expense of the majority. Rising economic inequality has the most negative consequences for women, who continue to make up the majority of the world's poor.

On Monday, Oxfam launched a new campaign called Shortchanged. The campaign is focused on finding solutions to growing economic inequality by looking in particular at how to make work paid, equal, and valued for women.

With a feminist Prime Minister and a government committed to inclusive growth, Canada is well placed to become a global leader in tackling the twin struggles of gender and economic inequality.

Today, I'll present three sets of recommendations, all of which have implications for Canadian domestic and foreign policy.

First, the government should prioritize progressive taxation to ensure that tax policies do not entrench inequality. The tax system is one of the most important tools the government has at its disposal to address inequality. Badly designed tax systems, on the other hand, exacerbate inequality. When the richest in our society enjoy low rates and can hide their money in overseas tax havens, the rest of society has to make up the difference.

Oxfam has seen examples of governments taking the high road. A few years ago, Senegal adopted a new tax code to raise revenue to pay for public services. This reform increased the corporate tax rate, reduced personal income tax for the poorest, and raised it by 15% for the richest. Uruguay has also reformed its regressive tax system over the past decade by lowering the tax rate on the poorest and the middle class. Today, after-tax income inequality is starkly lower than it once was. These reforms show that where there's political will, governments can ensure that those who have more can contribute more.

For budget 2017, we recommend that Canada continue investing in CRA's capacity to tackle tax evasion. We also recommend that the government gradually increase the corporate tax rate from 15% to 21%. Providing tax breaks to Canada's largest companies has not materialized into more jobs and prosperity, but rather an increase in corporate profit and government deficits.

Canada should also play a positive role in global tax reforms by specifically looking at tackling tax havens and ending harmful global tax competition. Canada also has a role to play in helping developing countries participate in these global reforms on an equal footing.

The government also should make gender-based analysis mandatory for all proposals that go to cabinet, the Privy Council, Treasury Board, and the Department of Finance. It should invest in research to make sure this gets done and gets done well. The next budget should include increased funding for Status of Women Canada to lead these efforts.

Second, Canada should increase the proportion of total government spending on public services and social protection to lift people out of poverty. Public services can be great equalizers, and they can mitigate the worst impact of today's skewed income and wealth distribution.

Public services are particularly important for women. For example, when parents have to pay to send their kids to school in developing countries, girls are more likely to be kept home, which affects their life chances and their future income earnings.

Public services such as health care, child care, and elder care also help redistribute the unpaid work that women have traditionally performed for free, and which limits their time to engage in paid work in rich and poor countries alike.

Oxfam has seen examples of governments taking the high road. In 2005, the Government of Nepal dramatically improved access to health care by removing fees for primary health care services and providing cash incentives to women to give birth in health facilities. This has a dramatic impact on women's health. Here in Quebec, the subsidized child care program has prompted an upsurge in employment among women, especially single mothers, whose poverty rate has fallen and whose after-tax income has shot up.

Oxfam welcomes the federal government's commitment to building a national framework on early learning and child care. To ensure this delivers on its promise, we recommend an increase in child care funding by $600 million in 2017, as well as steady increases in the years to come.

The government should also address the discriminatory and chronic underfunding of essential services for first nations.

The government, on the international front, could reinvest significantly in Canada's international aid budget to the tune of $862 million in 2017. We can afford to do our part in tackling global poverty. An increase in the aid budget would also strengthen Canada's renewed leadership on the global stage.

As we've discussed with Minister Bibeau and her team, 20% of all new aid investment should be specifically allocated to programs that advance women's rights and gender equality.

Finally, our next budget should address the unequal economics of women's work. Women around the world, including here in Canada, have been told that accessing the workforce will provide them with independence and empowerment, but the reality is that many women are often rewarded with poverty wages, insecure jobs, and unequal pay. Women also shoulder the majority of unpaid care work, washing their children's clothes, caring for aging parents, or collecting water and firewood in some of the poorest communities in this world.

In Canada, women represent 60% of minimum wage earners and they make, on average, in their earnings 28% less than men. Yes, women still earn 72¢ on the dollar. In some countries the gap is even starker. For example, women in Pakistan make, on average, 37% less than men. Around the world, 75% of the people who work in the informal sector are women. You can think of women selling snacks at bus stops in Mexico, or women sewing together our jeans in their homes in Bangladesh, working for multinational corporations.

Some governments are taking positive steps to address the unequal economics of women's work. For example, after loss of advocacy by Oxfam International and their local partners, the Government of Malawi has raised the minimum wage, which has made a real difference in the lives of women. In Sweden, the equal opportunity act is a great example of how to address pay disparities between men and women.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Could you wrap it up, Lauren, please.

9:35 a.m.

Director of Policy and Campaigns, Oxfam Canada

Lauren Ravon

In budget 2017 the government should enact legislation to raise the federal minimum wage and work with the provinces to move toward living wages for all workers across Canada.

The government should follow through on its commitment to introduce proactive pay equity legislation, with particular attention to the greater pay equity gap for racialized, aboriginal, and immigrant women.

Canada should sign and ratify ILO Convention 189, the domestic workers convention, and expand the scope of legislation, policy and programs that allow domestic workers to enjoy equal rights.

Finally, the government should take greater steps to hold Canadian companies accountable for meeting robust labour standards when operating abroad, and provide support to developing countries to regulate labour practices.

Thank you very much.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you very much.

We'll now turn to Ms. Roy from Regroupement québécois des organismes pour le développement de l'employabilité.

9:35 a.m.

Valérie Roy General Manager, Regroupement québécois des organismes pour le développement de l'employabilité

Thank you.

Mr. Chair, members of the committee, on behalf of the Regroupement québécois des organismes pour le développement de l'employabilité, or RQuODE, I want to say how grateful we are for the invitation to appear today and the opportunity to share our observations and recommendations with the committee.

The RQuODE is the largest employability network in Quebec. Located throughout the province, the network's 87 member organizations specialize in workforce development, providing employment services to more than 80,000 people every year. As a result, the impact we have on communities is significant, and the programs we implement have tremendous benefits for a variety of client groups.

The 2017 federal budget is an opportunity for Ottawa to take concrete steps to help Canadians fully contribute to the country's prosperity and social development.

I have three recommendations I'd like to share with you today. The first relates to accessibility and the use of labour market information. Given the rapidly evolving labour market, workers, students, employers, governments, and non-government organizations need to be able to rely on timely high-quality labour market information, particularly to make informed decisions on employment, education, and economic development.

Comprehensive, up-to-date, and easily accessible data are critical in order to train a skilled workforce able to meet the needs of employers. For that reason, we support the two recommendations put forward by the Forum of Labour Market Ministers, the creation of both a new labour market information council and a national stakeholder advisory committee.

However, much work still needs to be done to ensure that labour market information more accurately and effectively reflects local labour market needs and realities all over the country, by delivering detailed regional data on labour supply and demand. This calls for close coordination between the levels of government to limit information fragmentation across various platforms, connect the different tools, and prevent disparities.

Although labour market information may seem easier to access thanks to the Internet and new technologies, few people know where to find it or, more importantly, how to interpret it.

We therefore recommend promoting greater use of labour market information by working with the provinces and territories to improve data quality, availability, accessibility, and outreach.

Our second recommendation addresses services for client groups who are under-represented in the workforce, including youth, aboriginals, and immigrants.

As you know, labour market policy is a responsibility the federal government shares with the provinces and territories, pursuant to labour market and labour market development agreements with each province and territory.

With the exception of Quebec, the labour market agreements with the provinces and territories were replaced in 2014 by the Canada Job Fund, which is designed to strengthen private sector involvement in workforce training and skills development.

Despite having a commendable goal, the Canada Job Fund significantly reduces funding for employability programs that help vulnerable Canadians who are unemployed, given that it allocates 70% of the budget meant to support individuals who are not eligible for employment insurance benefits to employee training.

Although Quebec was able to keep the funding under its labour market agreement thanks to the unique way its employment partnership is structured, the fact that funding is being redirected to employed individuals is concerning on many levels. It is especially worrisome when it comes to the continuation of provincial measures for groups that are under-represented in the workforce, which I listed earlier.

It therefore seems necessary to incorporate greater flexibility into the agreements between Ottawa and the provinces and territories. This would ensure that training and employability programs managed by the provinces and territories could meet local labour market needs and allow for the introduction and sustainability of meaningful initiatives aimed at all groups, particularly those most vulnerable.

With that in mind, we recommend that the government guarantee access to employability and career development services to all vulnerable individuals through more flexible measures and transfer agreements.

Our third and final recommendation concerns the lack of an overall career development policy, both nationwide and in most provinces and territories.

The disparity between people's skills and labour market needs has serious repercussions: a loss of productivity, the squandering of human capital, health problems, and high social service costs. In that sense, an approach that includes all Canadians and promotes the development of their full potential is crucial to the country's sustainable economic growth and social cohesion. A career development framework needs to be established.

Without a coordinated strategy, it will be difficult to take proactive, deliberate, and sustained action to meet the career development needs of the population over the long term.

Consider that less than 20% of Canadians follow a linear career path. That means the need to build a mobile and dynamic workforce is undeniable.

We recommend that, through the Forum of Labour Market Ministers, the government develop a national career development framework, while giving the provinces and territories enough independence to adapt and deploy measures and strategies.

Thank you for listening.