Evidence of meeting #51 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreed.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Trevor McGowan  Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Pierre Mercille  Director General, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Dave Beaulne  Senior Director, Legislation, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Maude Lavoie  Director General, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Maximilian Baylor  Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Lesley Taylor  Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Dominic DiFruscio  Senior Advisor, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Phil King  Director General, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Erin O'Brien  Director General, Financial Services Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jean-François Girard  Senior Director, Financial Stability and Capital Markets Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Julie Trepanier  Director, Payments Policy, Financial Systems Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Nicolas Moreau  Director General, Funds Management Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Manuel Dussault  Senior Director, Framework Policy, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Justin Brown  Acting Director General, Financial Crimes Governance and Operations, Financial Systems Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Neelu Shanker  Deputy Director, Operations, Sanctions Policy and Operations Coordination Division, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Shall clause 92 carry?

(Clause 92 agreed to on division)

Gabriel, you had a question on that one.

6:40 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Does the Minister have the power to make regulations to change the rates, percentages and amounts of the benefits?

6:40 p.m.

Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Trevor McGowan

The rates for furloughed employees are currently set out in the regulations. Many of the other rates can actually be changed by regulation as well. The base wage subsidy rate and the rent subsidy base rate can be changed by regulation as well, but this one relates to furloughed employees, and the rate is currently set out in the regulations.

6:40 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Thank you.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you, all.

We are turning to clause 93.

(On clause 93)

6:40 p.m.

Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Trevor McGowan

Clause 93 relates to the enhanced capital cost allowance, or accelerated investment incentive deductions, available for zero-emission vehicles and the expansion of the types of vehicles that qualify.

As we discussed earlier, the capital cost allowance system is based on a number of capital cost allowance classes. Different types of assets are put in different classes, and each class has its own capital cost allowance deduction rate. This measure introduces a new capital cost allowance class, class 56, in respect to these new zero-emission vehicles.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay.

Go ahead, Pat Kelly.

6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Rocky Ridge, AB

I don't have a question. I'm content to let it go on division, but I didn't hear you call clause 92. Did you call clause 92 before Gabriel?

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes, I did. I called clause 92 before Gabriel.

6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Rocky Ridge, AB

My apologies.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

It's not a problem. Good job; you're watching.

Shall clause 93 carry on division?

(Clause 93 agreed to on division)

(On clause 94)

6:40 p.m.

Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Trevor McGowan

These amendments are consequential on the amendments to the registered disability savings plan.

I don't know if somebody else was planning to come to speak to Canada disability savings regulations.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Is there anybody in the room who can give a signal to the clerk on the Canada disability savings regulations? We're on page 121 of the bill.

6:40 p.m.

Director General, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Trevor McGowan

If not, I think we could probably speak to them. My colleague Lesley Taylor is in the lobby. She is one of our policy leads on the registered disability savings plans.

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Go ahead, Ms. Taylor. We're on Canada disability savings regulation, clause 94.

May 27th, 2021 / 6:40 p.m.

Lesley Taylor Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

To clarify, these regulations are the purview of Employment and Social Development Canada. They were drafted by that department. I work with Trevor in the tax policy branch at the Department of Finance. I'll note that as we are not the owners of these regulations, we can speak to them at a high level but may have some limitations as to what we can delve into.

Clause 94 is essentially a correction to the French to bring it in better line with the existing English terminology.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay. Is there anything further on that?

(Clause 94 agreed to on division.)

(On clause 95)

6:45 p.m.

Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Lesley Taylor

To take a step backward, you have to understand that under the RDSP regime, essentially one has to be eligible for the disability tax credit in a year to be able to generally continue to be the beneficiary of a plan. The proposal in budget 2019 that we're talking about in this bill would adjust that so that individuals who cease to be eligible for the DTC may keep their plans open and retain the grants and bonds that have been paid into those plans.

Under the old rules, we did have a special rule that allowed for individuals who ceased to be eligible for the DTC but in future years might regain their DTC eligibility. One might imagine a disability that could wax and wane over time. Clause 95 is essentially repealing the parts of the rules that relate to that special election to keep a plan open if one expected to regain DTC eligibility. It's essentially not needed anymore, given the new proposed regime.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Shall clause 95 carry on division?

(Clause 95 agreed to on division)

(On clause 96)

6:45 p.m.

Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Lesley Taylor

Clause 96 deals with events that that can trigger a need to repay grants and bonds to the Government of Canada. For example, if an individual dies, their plan needs to be wound up, so it can trigger a need to repay grants and funds under certain conditions. This clause basically specifies how the rules will work under this new regime when we're no longer dealing with an individual who continues to be eligible for the disability tax credit, as opposed to an individual who is no longer eligible for the disability tax credit.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

All right. Thanks for the explanation.

Shall clause 96 carry on division?

(Clause 96 agreed to on division)

(On clause 97)

6:45 p.m.

Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Lesley Taylor

Clause 97 just repeals a section that specifically related to that special election I spoke to earlier for an individual who was expected to regain DTC eligibility in the future. Again, it is no longer needed, so it's cleaning up the regulationss for that.

(Clause 97 agreed to on division)

(On clause 98)

6:45 p.m.

Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Lesley Taylor

Clause 98 is essentially a bit of a clarification that no repayment is required on any disability assistance payment, which is a fancy way of saying that withdrawals from the plan after an individual attains the age of 59.... It's basically just for additional clarity that there is no repayment after that age.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Shall clause 98 carry on division?

(Clause 98 agreed to on division)

(On clause 99)

6:45 p.m.

Senior Director, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Lesley Taylor

This is the final one with respect to these regulations.

This clause deals again with a disability assistance payment. As I said, it is a fancy way of saying that when a withdrawal from this plan occurs, it lays out any repayment requirements that would be applicable to an individual who is no longer DTC eligible.