Evidence of meeting #9 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was als.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tammy Moore  Chief Executive Officer, Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Society of Canada
David Taylor  Vice-President, Research, Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Society of Canada
Bill Bewick  Executive Director, Fairness Alberta
Thomas Saras  President and Chief Executive Officer, National Ethnic Press and Media Council of Canada
Kate Higgins  Interim Executive Director, Oxfam Canada
Jeffrey Booth  Entrepreneur and Author, As an Individual
Jack Mintz  President's Fellow, School of Public Policy, University of Calgary, As an Individual
Reg Rocha  President, 4 Pillars Consulting Group Inc.
Philip Cross  Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Okay.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We are going to have to end it there.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

What's your point of order? I thought we had agreement to end at 6:15.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Mr. Falk hasn't had an opportunity to speak. I understood that he was going to be getting Peter's two and a half minutes. I don't think anyone would object if Mr. Falk had an opportunity to make an intervention. It would take us to 6:20.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Are you okay with that, Mr. Julian?

Mr. Falk, you're on. I'm glad you get two and a half minutes.

December 3rd, 2020 / 6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Thank you very much, Mr. Easter.

I have a question for Mr. Mintz.

Mr. Booth mentioned in his presentation the danger of inflation and how that disproportionately affects people of lower income. What we're seeing is that the Bank of Canada has committed to maintaining inflation at about 2%. They're doing that by adding hundreds of billions of dollars that they've given the government to disburse.

You talked about ineffective spending back in October in an article in the Financial Post. Can you elaborate a little bit more on that and also on the impact that this massive debt is going to have on people in the lower part of the economy?

6:20 p.m.

President's Fellow, School of Public Policy, University of Calgary, As an Individual

Dr. Jack Mintz

What I tried to talk about earlier is the concern that I just mentioned about overzealous spending that can lead to more debt and then, of course, potentially more inflation. We don't have inflationary pressures right now, and we may not see them for several years or a couple of years, but it could happen.

When inflation takes off, you get serious devaluation in the dollar, and that's another problem that comes along with it. I will just very quickly tell you that one of the saddest situations I've ever been involved in was when I was working for the World Bank doing work in Bulgaria. It was just after their huge devaluation that they went into because they ran very large deficits during that period around 1998. The saddest thing was seeing very poor people, people on fixed incomes who tend to be pensioners and others who really suffered when prices doubled in just one year.

That's why economists often talk about inflation tending to be really hardest on lower-income people and people with fixed incomes, because they don't have an offset from that inflation.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We have to end it there, folks.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I hate to have to rush meetings, as we did this one, but it's the world we live in, I guess.

Thank you to all the witnesses for coming and responding to our questions. As I said, this wouldn't be the first time we had some disagreements at committee. That's how we learn, by having a few disagreements.

With that, thank you very much. The committee will meet on Monday night.

The meeting is adjourned.