Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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9:55 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Liberal
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
We are back.
We were at CPC-5, and there was unanimous consent for MP Blaikie to change his vote.
(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
10 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I just have a quick....
CPC amendments 5 to 12 here on my sheet.... Don't we have to go through those or...?
10 p.m.
Liberal
10 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
Okay, so, you're going to do the rulings.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Yes, we will go one by one because I'll just read out my rulings.
CPC-5 was defeated.
Shall clause 126 carry? That's where we are right now.
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
Is that with respect to clause 125 or clause 126?
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NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
I have a quick point of order.
I think CPC-6 also amends clause 126.
10 p.m.
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
I think we have to get there before we vote on clause 126, unless it creates a new clause.
10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Okay, members, I'll just to clarify for everybody that CPC-5 amended clause 126. When we get to CPC-6, it will fall under new clause 126.1.
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Conservative
10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Members, you'll see at this hour that I do have to pull out the cheaters. I have the glasses at this hour. It's age, guys. You guys are all young 'uns.
Shall clause 126 carry?
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
Can we have a recorded division on that one?
(Clause 126 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Now we're at new clause 126.1.
This is CPC-6. I do have a ruling, members.
Bill C-47 amends several acts, including the Excise Act, 2001, to add inflationary adjustment clauses. The amendment seeks to establish new amounts of fines related to certain alcohol offences. As House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition, states on page 770:
An amendment to a bill that was referred to a committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.
In the opinion of the chair, this addition is a new concept that is beyond the scope of the bill as adopted by the House at second reading. Therefore, I rule the amendment inadmissible.
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Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
Mr. Chair, at the risk of pushing the envelope with respect to the rules of the motion, would you be so kind as to indulge me? What, exactly, in this amendment is outside of scope?
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Liberal
10 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
I'm sorry. I didn't quite follow it.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
I'll read the ruling one more time for members.
The ruling is that Bill C-47 amends several acts, including the Excise Act, 2001, to add inflationary adjustment clauses. The amendment seeks to establish new amounts of fines related to certain alcohol offences. As House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition, states on page 770:
An amendment to a bill that was referred to committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.
In the opinion of the chair, this addition is a new concept—
