Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Ariane Gagné-Frégeau  Legislative Clerk
Miriam Burke  Legislative Clerk
Jean-François Lafleur  Legislative Clerk

6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

There's nothing in the motion that was adopted that says you can't move deletion amendments.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We'll hear from the legislative clerk, please.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Thank you.

May 29th, 2023 / 6:40 p.m.

Philippe Méla Legislative Clerk

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It's not in order to move an amendment. To delete a clause, you have to vote against the clause.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Okay. You've heard, MP Genuis. You can't do it. We're on clause 8.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Okay. I'm sorry, but I'm challenging the chair on that. That's not my understanding, with all due respect.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Okay. There is a challenge, Clerk.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

That's carried. We're on clause 9.

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A voice

Sir, we didn't vote on the clause.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I apologize. Let's go back. It was sustained.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Can I point out that we should vote on it—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

No, you can't point anything out.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

—or is that debate?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Genuis, you can't—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I'm asking for a recorded division. Is that debate?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

You can. You can ask for recorded division.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

That's great.

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

It's on division.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Do we want a recorded division?

That's just so I understand the distinctions you're making, Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We're on clause 8.

(Clause 8 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clause 9 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

We're at clause 10.

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A voice

On division.

6:45 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Could we have a recorded vote?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Gazan, you can't be recognized at this time. We need an official substitution.

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NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

That should have come in to the clerk.

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Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

I move that we suspend while Ms. Gazan gets officially recognized.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We're just seeing if the clerk has received it, because it looks like it has been sent. I don't know if there's....