Finance Committee on May 29th, 2023

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

No, let's do a recorded vote, actually.

(Clauses 559 and 560 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

Mr. Chair, I see that Mr. Beech is doing some exercises with his thumb. I'm wondering if we should suspend, or if he's okay to continue.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It's his thumb stretches. I don't know; he might be cramping up.

Shall clause 561 carry?

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

I request a recorded vote.

[Marty Morantz, Conservative, Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB]

Sir, what clause are we on? The sound in here is so terrible.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We are on clause 561.

(Clauses 561 to 567 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Shall clause 568 carry?

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

On division.

[Stephen Ellis, Conservative, Cumberland—Colchester, NS]

I request a recorded division, please, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We'll have a recorded vote.

(Clauses 568 to 571 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clauses 573 to 578 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

On a point of order, go ahead, Mr. Lawrence.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

I'm wondering if the committee would agree to a UC to have the PBO appear before the end of session. In exchange, the Conservatives would agree to lump—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

No, we can't be doing that.

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

On a point of order, I heard “lump”.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

I can't think, for the life of me, of the appropriate verb. My apologies. The grouping, that's it. It's a big word. Sorry, it's been a long couple of days.

We would be grouping the clauses and, where possible, passing them on division if we can agree by unanimous consent to have the PBO here before the end of the year. I'm sure we'll hear from the PBO anyway.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We're not mixing those things up, so we're not doing that.

However, we can group if you'd like to just group. Right now, MP Lawrence, we are at clause 579. Would you like to group all the way to 632, our next amendment? We can go from 579 to 632 if there's UC.

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

Could you just test to see whether we have UC for the PBO to come, and maybe then we can group these?

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

I don't think it would be appropriate to—

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

I do enjoy spending time with you, Mr. Chair, but—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

I don't think it would be appropriate to mix those things, but if you did want to group those clauses—

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

I don't think there's anything in the rules that this would violate. Can I just test the UC, with your permission?

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We're not—

[Philip Lawrence, Conservative, Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON]

It will take all of 20 seconds.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

No.

Would you like to just do a grouping?