Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Ariane Gagné-Frégeau  Legislative Clerk
Miriam Burke  Legislative Clerk
Jean-François Lafleur  Legislative Clerk

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We'll have a recorded vote.

(Clause 459 as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clause 460 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

On clause 461, shall amendment NDP-11 carry?

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

I request a recorded vote.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We'll have a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall clause 461 carry?

(Clause 461 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clause 462 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clause 463 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clause 464 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

I understand that we are to be going through question period. Is that correct?

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That is correct. We are continuing.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

I would like to raise an objection to that on the point of order.

It's a violation of my privilege and all the members' privilege. Question period is incredibly important and part of our job. Even more so, there was an opposition motion brought forward by the New Democratic Party raising the issue of foreign interference. This is a serious issue—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That's debate.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

This is a point of order, Mr. Chair. I have privilege—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Lawrence, that's debate. You're debating.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

On this point of order, Mr. Chair—

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

I could understand why the Liberals wouldn't want to be in the House when foreign interference—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Members, we're on clause 465.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

To expedite the process, my suggestion is, later on, to combine clause 472 to—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That is not a point of order, MP Chatel. Those are not points of order.

Shall NDP-12 carry?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Mr. Chair, are you ruling against...?

It's my point of order. It's my privilege.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Shall NDP-12 carry?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

It's my point of order, Mr. Chair.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

What is your point of order, MP Lawrence?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Are you ruling against my point of order that we should suspend for question period?

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That is not a point of order.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

It certainly is a point of order. It's with respect to our schedule. You were saying that we can go through question period.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We're going to suspend for a moment.

First, the member and any member is welcome to attend question period. They're welcome to go.

I understand that the whips came to this agreement that this is how we would proceed. We are proceeding right through question period, but the member is welcome to go and attend question period.

May 30th, 2023 / 1:25 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

As a point of clarity on two of those issues, they are disingenuous.

One is the whips did not agree on that. It was a majority of seats, so both the Conservative and I understand—Gabriel, you can correct me if I'm wrong—the Bloc Québecois did not—

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

That's how democracy works.

It's debate, not a point of order. Call the question.