Evidence of meeting #45 for Finance in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Maxson  Senior Director, Employment and Education, Personal Income Tax Division, Department of Finance
Walsh  Senior Director, Savings and Investment, Department of Finance
Baddeley  Director, Economic Development, Department of Finance
Coulombe  Director General, Legislation, Sales Tax Division, Department of Finance
Holmes  Executive Director, Business Enablement and Regulatory Services, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Countryman  Director General, Federal-Provincial Relations, Department of Finance
Stuart  Senior Director, Income Security, Department of Finance

5:15 p.m.

Director, Economic Development, Department of Finance

Shane Baddeley

I would imagine that in the CRA filing there would be the information by province, yes.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Okay. Do you know what the additional cost—or the additional man-hours—of providing that information would be?

5:15 p.m.

Director, Economic Development, Department of Finance

Shane Baddeley

That is a question I'm not in a position to answer.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

That's fine.

I would like to move a subamendment. If we wish to follow the same procedures as we did, that would be fine, Madam Chair. We'll put it in writing and then move forward to the next....

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Do we have unanimous consent to stand clause 7?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

(Clause 7 allowed to stand)

(Clauses 8 to 10 agreed to on division)

(On clause 11)

Mr. Turnbull, are you introducing G-1?

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Yes, I can.

I'm sorry. I just need to find my page number. I apologize, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

That's okay.

While you're doing that, I do have an update from the clerks for the committee that the committee might be interested in knowing. One of the reasons the CRA is likely not here is that there are no CRA-led initiatives in Bill C-30. They come from the Department of Finance. That would likely be the reason we don't have the CRA.

Mr. Turnbull, are you ready?

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

No, I'm sorry. I can't find the page number. I apologize.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

You don't actually have to read it into the record, because we do have it.

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

I will read it into record.

To my colleague, thank you very much. I thought I was organized, but there are so many pages.

I move that Bill C-30, in clause 11, be amended by (a) replacing line 7 on page 7 with “aviation gasoline, leaded aviation gasoline, diesel fuel or aviation fuel becomes payable” and (b) replacing lines 12 and 13 on page 7 with the following:

(b) the reference to “$0.11” in paragraph 9(b) is to be read as a reference to “$0.00”; and

(c) the reference to “$0.04” in section 9.1 is to be read

That sounds a little bit confusing because part of the amendment cuts into one of the words, but it's a very minor technical amendment, indeed, for the fuel excise suspension the government announced recently that continues until Labour Day. This amendment responds to stakeholder input and requests to include leaded aviation gasoline within the scope of the temporary fuel excise tax relief.

The government has stated that the temporary suspension of the federal fuel excise tax is intended to apply to aviation fuels generally during the relief period. The proposed change provides certainty regarding the application of the relief to leaded aviation gasoline to ensure that the scope of the measure is consistent with the policy intent.

We know that the Conservative Party of Canada has expressed support for making the excise fuel tax suspension permanent, and we hope the party will be in favour—as all members, I'm sure, would be—of this minor technical amendment. The fiscal impacts of adding leaded aviation gasoline are fairly minimal.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Thank you.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Thanks, Madam Chair.

I'd be remiss if I didn't add the fact that this is only taking off a third of the tax for a third of the year. The Conservatives have been calling for the removal of all fuel taxes for the remainder of the year. Here is the difference: This would save families maybe a maximum of $100 or something like that, whereas our plan would save Canadian families $1,200 for the entire year or up to 25¢ per litre. This would include getting rid of the other hidden carbon tax—the clean fuel standard the Liberals brought in that does nothing for the environment but only makes everything more expensive, including food, fuel and everything else when it comes to shipping the goods and services Canadians are buying—and, of course, removing the GST from everything for the rest of the year as well. As I said, that would give each family a total savings of $1,200.

I would try once again—as we've done in the House many times, where the Liberals would not support it—to move a subamendment to have this extended for the rest of the year instead of just temporarily.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Will you submit that in writing?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary East, AB

Yes, Chair, we'll submit that.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Do we have unanimous consent, then, to stand clause—

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

No. We should just suspend and get it in writing, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

We don't have UC to do that, then.

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

No.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Okay. Then we will—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

I have some more.... I'm just trying to—

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Just give me a moment, please, Mr. Lawrence.

We don't have UC.

Mr. Lawrence, would you like to...?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

I had a couple of questions about this clause that weren't directly on the—

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

We're on the subamendment now, so we can't do that.