Evidence of meeting #45 for Finance in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Maxson  Senior Director, Employment and Education, Personal Income Tax Division, Department of Finance
Walsh  Senior Director, Savings and Investment, Department of Finance
Baddeley  Director, Economic Development, Department of Finance
Coulombe  Director General, Legislation, Sales Tax Division, Department of Finance
Holmes  Executive Director, Business Enablement and Regulatory Services, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Countryman  Director General, Federal-Provincial Relations, Department of Finance
Stuart  Senior Director, Income Security, Department of Finance

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Leduc—Wetaskiwin, AB

I am sensing that some are reconsidering positions over there. As we have the conversation a bit longer, I feel like we might see some movement there. In my experience, as people have better conversations, sometimes people can be persuaded to take positions that would reflect more common sense. Hopefully, we'll see that in this discussion, because I don't agree that this conversation is irrelevant. I don't agree that the conversation around inflation is irrelevant to this conversation.

I think the bells are ringing.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

The bells are ringing. Do we have unanimous consent to continue for the next 15 minutes?

Some hon. members

No.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

The meeting is suspended.

[The meeting was suspended at 8:18 p.m., Tuesday, June 9]

[The meeting resumed at 7:37 a.m., Wednesday, June 10]

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Good morning, colleagues.

We are returning to subamendment seven of CPC-13.

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

I have a point of order.

I understand that the officials are having difficulty getting through security. Since one of the critical elements of this review is to discuss this with the officials, I don't believe we should start until we have the officials.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Do you have questions for the officials?

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Yes.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Okay.

How about we continue on subamendment seven, and then when officials...or could we park this? Then, if you have particular questions, we could move on to the next and we'll stand that clause. How does that sound, Mr. Lawrence?

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

It's not satisfactory, Madam Chair, because I have questions throughout for officials. My understanding is that the officials should be here. I believe that's part of the process, and I wouldn't want this process to go incorrectly.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

That's cute. Thank you for sharing that.

I'm going to ask for unanimous consent to stand CPC-13, new clause 43.1, and to move on to clause 44. If it's the case that you have questions on that one as well, we can stand that.

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

No, I believe that we should move appropriately, which is to have all of the officials for all of the clauses.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Do we have unanimous consent to stand new clause 43.1?

Some hon. members

No.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

We will take a brief suspension and return once the officials are here.

Actually, we have a number of officials in the room, and I think we have some online as well.

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Do we have them all?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

We don't have all of them, but they are coming in. Is there one in particular you'd like to ask a question? We can check to see if they're here.

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Could you provide me with the roster of officials we're supposed to have and the ones we do have?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

I think everyone has that. It's been sent out.

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Yes, but which officials are actually here of those who are supposed to be here?

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Can I ask which one you'd like to ask a question of? Then we can confirm.

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

I would prefer to see who's here and who's not. The conversation, as you know, can be fluid, and questions can come up, Madam Chair. We do have to do things appropriately.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Could I ask which official you'd like to ask a question of, Mr. Lawrence?

7:35 a.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

As I said, it can be a fluid conversation, and there can be different issues that come up. I would like the full complement here.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Sure. I'm just asking if there is a particular official in this moment, because it is 7:30 and we're on hour 19 of this meeting. I'm curious whether you have a particular official you'd like to ask a question of.