I was aware of it through seeing emails come across my desk. With the local stewardship groups that I participate in, there really hasn't been any discussion about the money. With our enhancement, our information and our solution to rebuild the chinook stocks, the problem is that the department 100% controls who can participate and how you release the fish. Since their program is based on S0 releases, there's been a big resistance to our participation. For all the fish we've grown to date, we've had to rely on our own money and money from our community, which is 600,000 fish, which is a lot of fish, and the community has wholly supported it.
I would have to say that the relationship with the salmon enhancement program, because we're private and we bring a different strategy, has been.... As I say, they've been continuing with their same strategy for 44 years, even with the results that we've shown that can make a huge difference.
You can rebuild a stock in four years to over 1,500 fish, yet some of them have had five million fish released over 40 years, and they're at almost the same number as when they started 40 years ago. That is why I'm presenting here today.