Evidence of meeting #2 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Tina Miller
Michael Chalupovitsch  Committee Researcher

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

It has been sent to the clerk.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Yes, it has been sent to the clerk.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

However, it has not been sent to the members. Is that correct?

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

No, the clerk will do that.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Mr. Chair, what was recorded as passed on division? Could you explain that to the committee?

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

It was the original subamendment by Mr. Arnold, but then there was some question as to what was actually in that subamendment. I didn't write it down. I listened to it, but I can't tell you word for word what Mr. Arnold read out as his subamendment. I can't tell you if it's identical to what he just read out now, but it did pass on division as it was provided.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Has that been dealt with? It was recorded as agreed to on division. That's the other clarification. I'm not sure how the clerk was referencing “on division”, because there were members on the government side who voted in favour of Mr. Arnold's subamendment.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

The “on division” part was because I saw a number of thumbs-up and other people didn't have anything. That's why I said “on division”.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Okay.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Go ahead, Mr. Zimmer.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

Just for clarity, I did state that I would prefer four hours but two hours would suffice, and nobody corrected me on that, either. I understood that “two hours” was in the original motion by Mr. Perkins, and it was followed through by me and Mr. Arnold. I believe that was the intent of what was voted on. If the text needs to clarify that, then it does, but I think it was pretty clear that we wanted two hours.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you, Mr. Zimmer.

Mr. Arnold, have you received the text of the original amendment?

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

It just came in, Mr. Chair, and I'm working on some edits so that I can send them back to the clerk.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay.

Go ahead, Mr. Bachrach.

January 18th, 2022 / 11:25 a.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Chair, while we're waiting for that, I wonder if I could just clarify what I think we're voting for if we vote for both the amendment and the subamendment.

In trying to follow the conversation so far, we're talking about having the minister and the officials appear in the first week of February for a two-hour meeting to discuss the mandate, plus the supplementary estimates (C), plus anything else related to her department. Is that the summation of everything that's been proposed?

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, if we agree to the subamendment, the amendment and the actual amended motion, that's basically what we're trying to arrive at.

11:25 a.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Okay. That's fabulous. I support all of that.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Hardie, you have your hand up.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

Yes, I do. I need a bit of clarification as well. When are the supplementary estimates (C) due to be available? I'm not sure they would actually be available to the minister by the first week of February.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

That would depend on when they get tabled in the House, I guess: whether they get tabled before we do the study on this particular motion or afterwards. If they're not tabled, they won't be up for discussion.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

If they're not tabled at that point and they're tabled subsequently, would this mean that the minister would be required to come back to committee another time?

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Not unless the committee requests it....

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

I see. Okay.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

The subamendment didn't say two dates. It said “in the first week of February”.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

I can't support the first week of February. That's too soon. We may as well get it all done at once.