I had a most interesting discussion with a senior government official from Iran the other day. We got into a discussion about human rights and we compared Canada and Iran. He said you can't compare them because Iran has a different culture and a different religion, and their government is based on religion. That really brought home how difficult it is to advance the causes of human rights, equity for women, rule of law, and civil society if they don't believe there's a problem.
It was a fascinating discussion, but I was just wondering what we can do to try to break into that, to try to separate those in countries like Iran and other countries, where they just don't accept these things.