Evidence of meeting #10 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was obhrai.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Randolph Mank  Director General, Asia South and Pacific Bureau, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
John F. G. Hannaford  Director General and Deputy Legal Adviser, , Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Peter McGovern  Director General, Bilateral Commercial Relations, Asia and Americas, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Adèle Dion  Director General, Human Security and Human Rights Bureau, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Clerk of the Committee  Mrs. Angela Crandall

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Yes, we're going to get there.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Bernard Patry Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

When we get there, I want to speak on this.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

What have we decided, then? Are we going to wait or are we going to proceed?

5 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

I think there was a consensus to wait until we can get the appropriate witnesses.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Does the committee then want to hear about Somalia on the Tuesday?

5 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

Yes, if we're ready.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Are we ready for Somalia? All right, so that's a check on that.

The clerk was also asked by our steering committee to inquire into the availability of Mr. John Manley to appear before the committee. If my memory serves me correctly--and I know Mr. Wilfert isn't here, but Madame Barbot and Mr. Dewar and Mr. Obhrai were here--we said we would discuss Mr. Obhrai's motion in regard to Mr. John Manley appearing before our committee in response to the Manley panel report that was brought forward.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Can I, Mr. Chair--

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

This still isn't the time for your motion--not quite yet, not quite yet.

The clerk has checked into the availability of Mr. Manley.

5 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes. As I explained to the steering committee on Tuesday, I spoke with a representative--

5 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Mr. Chairman, you are not entertaining my motion, but the motion calls for calling Mr. Manley. And for you to say that it isn't time yet, when you're jumping ahead of the--

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

No, I'm just going to have her check on the availability. Then I'm going to you, and then Mr. Patry.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

No, but by looking at the availability issue, you are already saying that we need to call Mr. Manley.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

No, we're going through the steering committee report. I'm going to have the clerk explain whether she has checked on the availability of Mr. Manley. Then we're going to pass this--

5 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

Mr. Chair, on a point of order--I agree with you, and I support you--I just want to say that perhaps we can first hear from the clerk about availability and then move on.

Thank you.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

That's what I was doing.

Continue, Madam Clerk. Everyone is waiting for what you have to say.

5 p.m.

The Clerk

As I explained to the steering committee on Tuesday, I checked for Mr. Manley's availability. I was told that he is either out of Ottawa or has meetings scheduled for pretty much every Tuesday and Thursday, and all the other days as well, until February 28, but that he would possibly be available on Monday, February 11, from 3:30 to 5:30.

So the committee has the possibility of changing its meeting, if it wishes, to hear from Mr. Manley on that day. We could have our meeting then rather than the one on Thursday of that week.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Mr. Patry, and then Mr. Obhrai.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bernard Patry Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Okay, that's the availability part. That's what we have in front of us. Now we either accept or don't accept the second report, and then see if we want to have Mr. Manley or not. But we first need to accept the report.

So we've been told about the availability, and now we're going to vote. The availability doesn't mean that we're going to agree or disagree on the report.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Correct, yes.

Mr. Obhrai, on this point.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

So you are going to let me talk.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

No.

5:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

What kind of chairman do I have here?

5:05 p.m.

An hon. member

He's a Conservative.