Evidence of meeting #10 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

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Gérard Latulippe  President, Rights & Democracy

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

Mr. Chairman, absolutely.

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Conservative

Jim Abbott Conservative Kootenay—Columbia, BC

Okay, thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Now we're going to move back over to Mr. Valeriote.

Welcome, sir, to the committee.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Latulippe, for appearing before us today. I appreciate it.

You mentioned earlier that the board did not speak to you about your ideology, and I'd suggest to you that sometimes the direction from which a person is coming indicates the direction in which they're going and maybe there was no need for them to ask you about your ideology.

But having said that, you did talk about moving forward. Certainly, when one is moving forward, you sometimes have to disavow certain actions that pre-existed your entry to the organization.

One of those actions was a gag order that was issued by Aurel Braun, the chairman of Rights and Democracy. I'd ask you if you're aware of that gag order. It is a matter of public record. It was discussed in a Canadian Press article of March 30.

Do you condone that action, an issuing of a gag order by a board member to staff?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

I am telling you that I'm taking Rights and Democracy, and I will not remake the past history of Rights and Democracy. What I can tell you is that, for example, some inquiries are in process. I am looking forward to those inquiries.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Yes. Okay. I'm speaking to you about the gag order. Have you repealed that gag order seeking to silence the staff of the organization? Have you repealed that gag order?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

I will tell you something. I have--

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

I just want to know if you've repealed the gag order.

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

Look, let me tell you something. I think the staff has done something wrong in asking.... That's the first time in my life that I've seen staff asking for the resignation of a board. I think this was wrong by the staff.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Did you repeal the gag order?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Did you repeal the gag order?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

Look, I'm telling you that....

What do you mean by the gag order?

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

The gag order: telling them not to speak out about the organization. There was a gag order. A copy of it was given to Minister Cannon. Did you repeal it? You're talking about moving forward. I want to know if you've liberated the staff.

Do you believe in free speech?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

Absolutely. Do you know that the staff is meeting with me twice a week? Do you know that I'm meeting with the staff all the time?

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

And did you--

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President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

No, no, no--

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

--tell them they don't need to worry about the gag order, that it's repealed?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

I told them that they can talk to me about everything.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Can they talk to anyone else?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

They can talk to whoever they want. The staff actually is able to talk and to have their opinions.

And let me tell you--

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Okay. So--

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

No, no, this is important.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

--does that statement officially constitute you repealing that gag order?

12:20 p.m.

President, Rights & Democracy

Gérard Latulippe

Don't put your words in my mouth. What I'm telling you is that I'm in a constant relationship with the staff.