I might add, Chair, that it was Mr. Navarro-Genie who, I believe, called this committee and this process a gong show. This is someone who has been hired at taxpayers' expense, as far as we can tell—and we don't know until we get evidence, hopefully soon, from this group that he was being hired at taxpayers' expense—to work for the president. This is highly disturbing and unprofessional and unethical.
I'd also like to know from you about Mr. Gauthier. You said he had been on a trip to China on which other members accompanied him, that It was for five days, and that there was an honorarium or per diem paid to other members for five days, and that this was the amount of work that was done—a five-day billing—but that he had actually stayed over for an extra five or six days and, correct me if I'm wrong, charged more for—